1 00:00:09,259 --> 00:00:02,600 documentaries and it of course is mine 2 00:00:10,879 --> 00:00:09,269 to perfection that is too funny but I 3 00:00:15,049 --> 00:00:10,889 could I would love to hear the Italian 4 00:00:18,439 --> 00:00:15,059 version of must have made an effort and 5 00:00:21,859 --> 00:00:18,449 acted as the way you hide right I'm 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:21,869 gonna let everybody know the YouTube is 7 00:00:27,470 --> 00:00:25,890 back up and streaming so there is Leo's 8 00:00:32,530 --> 00:00:27,480 book I'm holding it up there and now 9 00:00:37,069 --> 00:00:32,540 invisible master and Leo the the book 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:37,079 normally when I read somebody's book 11 00:00:42,650 --> 00:00:39,450 I'll read it as speaking of dubbing 12 00:00:44,889 --> 00:00:42,660 right I read it in their voice I hear 13 00:00:49,729 --> 00:00:44,899 their voice as I'm reading the book and 14 00:00:52,130 --> 00:00:49,739 this one I'm having trouble hearing your 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:52,140 voice in it because it's not written 16 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:56,010 with an Italian accent and we made a big 17 00:01:02,209 --> 00:00:59,760 effort in in letting the whole of my 18 00:01:05,539 --> 00:01:02,219 thoughts and everything filter in in a 19 00:01:07,399 --> 00:01:05,549 way that was really American and we went 20 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:07,409 through like a lot of studies in the 21 00:01:14,060 --> 00:01:11,369 details of the even type of American you 22 00:01:16,940 --> 00:01:14,070 use in the way you then go along with 23 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:16,950 the footnotes and all the rest so we use 24 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:18,960 a Chicago style in that case so I mean 25 00:01:23,270 --> 00:01:21,299 we're very accurate in wanting to not 26 00:01:27,499 --> 00:01:23,280 only give you a translation but 27 00:01:30,109 --> 00:01:27,509 something that really helps the public 28 00:01:32,510 --> 00:01:30,119 my new public in the u.s. understand 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:32,520 this book as if it was an American 30 00:01:38,810 --> 00:01:36,650 author it's an amazing read leo so 31 00:01:41,179 --> 00:01:38,820 congratulations on the book I'm just 32 00:01:48,170 --> 00:01:41,189 gonna say that out of the gate it is an 33 00:01:49,460 --> 00:01:48,180 amazing book it is in the translation 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:49,470 and the adaptation we have worked 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:51,570 together with my wife who is American 36 00:01:58,639 --> 00:01:55,770 and of course we have the possibility of 37 00:02:00,859 --> 00:01:58,649 really now getting this to you and being 38 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:00,869 very excited about it because it's it 39 00:02:05,569 --> 00:02:03,119 took many years to translate all these 40 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:05,579 books in the English language and and 41 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:08,910 now we have after a fifth book I think 42 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:11,760 we have reached the perfection in a also 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:13,120 style of 44 00:02:17,580 --> 00:02:16,090 translation and adaptation now let's 45 00:02:21,780 --> 00:02:17,590 let's get straight to it 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:21,790 of course it's Leo's egami so I am going 47 00:02:27,059 --> 00:02:24,810 to assume if we are dealing with 48 00:02:30,690 --> 00:02:27,069 extraterrestrials and Leos egami 49 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:30,700 that it is going to have a lot of 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:33,930 religious insight into it as well as 51 00:02:38,729 --> 00:02:36,250 seeker groups and history and the 52 00:02:39,930 --> 00:02:38,739 Illuminati and maybe even a little 53 00:02:42,750 --> 00:02:39,940 Aleister Crowley 54 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:42,760 well you didn't disappoint in that your 55 00:02:49,830 --> 00:02:46,780 information with all of those context 56 00:02:52,589 --> 00:02:49,840 are here and clearly presented and a 57 00:02:56,220 --> 00:02:52,599 I've got to say this I want to say this 58 00:03:01,020 --> 00:02:56,230 to the audience that this is not a 59 00:03:06,270 --> 00:03:01,030 rehash of old information or stuff that 60 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:06,280 this is all fresh new and and and comes 61 00:03:12,509 --> 00:03:10,000 from a mindset that is just amazing 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:12,519 it's a really really well-written book 63 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:17,170 and I highly recommend it I want to the 64 00:03:21,870 --> 00:03:19,150 fact that for many years people have 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:21,880 mainly known me through the internet you 66 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:24,010 see that's why I went on to doing books 67 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:26,650 because what the people were perceiving 68 00:03:33,059 --> 00:03:29,620 from the internet was not really Leon's 69 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:33,069 egami the the guy who in the civil 70 00:03:38,099 --> 00:03:35,769 societies was an historian and academic 71 00:03:41,490 --> 00:03:38,109 in the person in the way I was working 72 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:41,500 because it it kind of made it difficult 73 00:03:45,390 --> 00:03:43,599 to put through that this knowledge is 74 00:03:47,580 --> 00:03:45,400 serious knowledge and has to be taken 75 00:03:49,349 --> 00:03:47,590 seriously and also proposed in a serious 76 00:03:54,270 --> 00:03:49,359 way to be taken seriously by the 77 00:03:55,589 --> 00:03:54,280 academic world so I at one point I 78 00:03:57,569 --> 00:03:55,599 understood that this was not possible 79 00:04:00,930 --> 00:03:57,579 with one page you publish on the 80 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:00,940 internet or an interview because certain 81 00:04:06,150 --> 00:04:03,730 things need to be unveiled in a very 82 00:04:10,020 --> 00:04:06,160 methodical way for the reader so they 83 00:04:11,729 --> 00:04:10,030 can then grasp that also the deepness of 84 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:11,739 it of what you're trying to transmit to 85 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:14,470 them so so and now with the books in 86 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:16,870 English language finally I guess that 87 00:04:21,690 --> 00:04:18,820 people understand okay let them is not 88 00:04:24,029 --> 00:04:21,700 just same things on the internet and 89 00:04:26,290 --> 00:04:24,039 having a show here it's not just a show 90 00:04:30,159 --> 00:04:26,300 there is some substance now 91 00:04:33,460 --> 00:04:30,169 let's uh what I wanted to do here is I 92 00:04:35,230 --> 00:04:33,470 want to break down I'm gonna go in 93 00:04:38,379 --> 00:04:35,240 chronological order but I want to break 94 00:04:42,850 --> 00:04:38,389 down these chapters and your approach to 95 00:04:45,219 --> 00:04:42,860 them and again it's Leo's egami 96 00:04:48,850 --> 00:04:45,229 and I was when I first got the book and 97 00:04:52,689 --> 00:04:48,860 I turned to Rita I said watch 98 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:52,699 we're gonna have a Lien's and Jesus will 99 00:04:58,899 --> 00:04:57,110 be chapter 1 right and I opened up the 100 00:05:02,589 --> 00:04:58,909 book and that's what I wanted to see 101 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:02,599 it's Leo right and that is that's the 102 00:05:09,070 --> 00:05:05,840 opening chapter and you know the 103 00:05:12,089 --> 00:05:09,080 supposed alien ancestors of Jesus now 104 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:12,099 you went straight there out of the gate 105 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:14,810 do you think I want to talk about this 106 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:17,840 we're gonna get in it sets the tone for 107 00:05:24,999 --> 00:05:22,610 the book but are you expecting to to 108 00:05:29,409 --> 00:05:25,009 make some people angry with starting the 109 00:05:31,570 --> 00:05:29,419 book out that way no because I think 110 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:31,580 they got already angry and after what I 111 00:05:37,809 --> 00:05:34,880 said I read the fact that now finally I 112 00:05:40,899 --> 00:05:37,819 have condensed all this in a book that 113 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:40,909 is a directed also for those people like 114 00:05:45,490 --> 00:05:43,370 you who are researching a specific 115 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:45,500 branch you know what is defined as that 116 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:48,080 the conspiracy theory realm which is the 117 00:05:57,249 --> 00:05:51,889 you you for the alien but to give it a 118 00:05:59,499 --> 00:05:57,259 deeper meaning and also defy a lot of 119 00:06:02,140 --> 00:05:59,509 the fake news that went along the wit 120 00:06:05,159 --> 00:06:02,150 for example the dumb brown exposure 121 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:05,169 which was not really an exposure but was 122 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:08,449 the same form this info so it needed to 123 00:06:13,330 --> 00:06:11,000 be unfolded much better much more 124 00:06:17,379 --> 00:06:13,340 clearly I hope I did that to Jamie 125 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:17,389 sure sure well let's start right there 126 00:06:26,379 --> 00:06:20,560 what's the alien connection to Jesus 127 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:26,389 well I mean if we have to have have it 128 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:29,330 called an alien connection it's because 129 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:31,990 of the bloodline of course of Jesus and 130 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:35,810 this bloodline is being discussed 131 00:06:42,580 --> 00:06:38,110 already now with 132 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:42,590 with the damn brown of course we have a 133 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:45,650 development of sensationalizing the 134 00:06:52,270 --> 00:06:49,010 whole thing but it's true that there is 135 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:52,280 some bloodlines that have filtered some 136 00:06:59,530 --> 00:06:56,690 aristocratic Jewish bloodlines that of 137 00:07:03,100 --> 00:06:59,540 course come down from the tyrannical 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:03,110 Jewish Nephilim and and and and and of 139 00:07:08,380 --> 00:07:05,690 course for a lot of people this has 140 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:08,390 always been the realm of research of 141 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:11,690 Zecharia Sitchin and of course aspect 142 00:07:17,380 --> 00:07:13,910 very much what other researchers have 143 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:17,390 done but I also point out maybe on the 144 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:19,970 limitations that each researcher could 145 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:22,610 have Loras Gardner was this English 146 00:07:27,250 --> 00:07:24,440 researcher that influenced very much 147 00:07:30,100 --> 00:07:27,260 behind the scenes people that went on 148 00:07:34,270 --> 00:07:30,110 after to filter that information that 149 00:07:38,710 --> 00:07:34,280 then became important in this whole da 150 00:07:43,420 --> 00:07:38,720 Vinci called the saga that was unveiled 151 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:43,430 by the writings of Dom Brown but there 152 00:07:49,570 --> 00:07:45,650 is this alien connection in the fact 153 00:07:54,820 --> 00:07:49,580 that of course not only by legend but 154 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:54,830 also because the royal families have had 155 00:08:00,780 --> 00:07:57,530 a link to the gods since the time of 156 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:00,790 ancient Rome I mean a lot of these 157 00:08:07,210 --> 00:08:04,970 aristocratic families also derive from 158 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:07,220 from from ancient Rome and in ancient 159 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:10,960 Rome we know the Emperor's were gods who 160 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:14,960 interfaced with the God there were semi 161 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:17,510 God demigods they were half human half 162 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:20,720 gods because they had interacted with 163 00:08:27,220 --> 00:08:25,190 these entities from other realms which I 164 00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:27,230 also described as you know in the book 165 00:08:34,150 --> 00:08:31,280 as extradimensional and capable of 166 00:08:36,670 --> 00:08:34,160 traveling through time and space because 167 00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:36,680 they have a complete other knowledge and 168 00:08:43,540 --> 00:08:39,260 other technology to enter this dimension 169 00:08:48,940 --> 00:08:43,550 and then get out of it and and of course 170 00:08:51,970 --> 00:08:48,950 the aristocratic families acquire and of 171 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:51,980 course the royal families even more the 172 00:09:00,610 --> 00:08:56,090 possibility of a priority interaction 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:00,620 with these entities and and from that 174 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:06,170 Springs out the dominating class of this 175 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:08,330 civilization and of the others before 176 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:12,530 that now clearly you're very clear 177 00:09:20,290 --> 00:09:15,650 you're very clear Leo that you there's 178 00:09:22,900 --> 00:09:20,300 and another point in the book you reveal 179 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:22,910 which I didn't know about that in the 180 00:09:30,190 --> 00:09:27,050 Quran that they specifically talked 181 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:30,200 about a wormhole that is connected to 182 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:33,440 another planet and now what I find 183 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:35,330 interesting in that first off the name 184 00:09:44,170 --> 00:09:41,450 of it is a mirage and and that because 185 00:09:45,730 --> 00:09:44,180 we connect mirages in the English 186 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:45,740 language with you know something that 187 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:47,810 you see in the desert and it's off in 188 00:09:52,930 --> 00:09:50,240 the distance and you get up to it and it 189 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:52,940 turns out it's not an oasis it's it's 190 00:09:59,350 --> 00:09:54,890 not there or whatever it's a mirage it's 191 00:10:03,630 --> 00:09:59,360 not real but in the Quran it's a it's a 192 00:10:05,650 --> 00:10:03,640 wormhole where extraterrestrials angels 193 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:05,660 interdimensional whatever it is that you 194 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:10,130 want to put the label on travels in the 195 00:10:16,270 --> 00:10:12,890 blink of an eye from that planet to 196 00:10:17,620 --> 00:10:16,280 earth now if we back up to this first 197 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:17,630 chapter in the book while we're talking 198 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:19,730 about Jesus later on you talk about 199 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:24,170 these wormholes but is it the same 200 00:10:29,590 --> 00:10:26,210 situation that is referenced in the in 201 00:10:31,750 --> 00:10:29,600 the Quran that Jesus was communicating 202 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:31,760 with and before that and the gods of a 203 00:10:36,850 --> 00:10:33,860 you know of Rome and of Greece and of 204 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:36,860 ancient Egypt and Moses and Mount Sinai 205 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:39,050 and all of these other references to 206 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:42,110 gods and angels is is that what we're 207 00:10:49,510 --> 00:10:47,570 talking about here yes in fact the whole 208 00:10:52,930 --> 00:10:49,520 thing talking also about the ultra 209 00:10:56,170 --> 00:10:52,940 dimensional portal of Lucifer with the 210 00:10:59,530 --> 00:10:56,180 Autorama and the Nazis and the various 211 00:11:01,300 --> 00:10:59,540 bull castle because it's all connected 212 00:11:04,660 --> 00:11:01,310 in this 213 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:04,670 history we are living even up to these 214 00:11:11,140 --> 00:11:07,610 days in something that is unfolding on 215 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:11,150 mankind that brings us all the way at 216 00:11:18,940 --> 00:11:12,890 the end of the book to talk of course of 217 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:18,950 the Vatican so when Jesus is talking to 218 00:11:28,060 --> 00:11:25,040 God his pops right talking to God that 219 00:11:32,170 --> 00:11:28,070 we are actually dealing with the 220 00:11:34,990 --> 00:11:32,180 possibility of it being extraterrestrial 221 00:11:37,570 --> 00:11:35,000 and not necessarily the god that is 222 00:11:39,579 --> 00:11:37,580 referenced in the Bible but something 223 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:39,589 that is you know living off planet and 224 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:41,420 traveling here or through a wormhole 225 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:45,650 I don't necessarily you see I also make 226 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:47,770 some clear warnings here in the book 227 00:11:54,820 --> 00:11:50,890 saying that some people in the New Age 228 00:11:58,450 --> 00:11:54,830 arena March on this take advantage of 229 00:12:00,670 --> 00:11:58,460 this to destroy our belief in God no no 230 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:00,680 it's just different manifestations of 231 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:03,860 God because there is a year a key in the 232 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:06,650 universe and we never heard of any alien 233 00:12:11,530 --> 00:12:09,530 beings who were not regimented in a very 234 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:11,540 strict hierarchy which is absolutely 235 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:14,690 anti-democratic concept to our own view 236 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:18,320 of democracy because they have still the 237 00:12:24,550 --> 00:12:21,200 systems which we had in place up till a 238 00:12:28,270 --> 00:12:24,560 hundred years ago when we had the royal 239 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:28,280 houses in place in Russia and Germany 240 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:30,880 and all those countries where they were 241 00:12:36,940 --> 00:12:34,370 destroyed on purpose so we could lose 242 00:12:40,990 --> 00:12:36,950 this link which was very precious and 243 00:12:43,450 --> 00:12:41,000 was made out of a tradition now of 244 00:12:46,030 --> 00:12:43,460 course we can criticize those families 245 00:12:48,490 --> 00:12:46,040 and called them the Illuminati and all 246 00:12:50,530 --> 00:12:48,500 that and of course I define what the 247 00:12:54,010 --> 00:12:50,540 Illuminati network is in my prior books 248 00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:54,020 but here we are talking about relation 249 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:56,240 between these families these secret 250 00:13:00,850 --> 00:12:58,610 societies and these God's relationship 251 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:00,860 which goes back thousands of years is 252 00:13:08,769 --> 00:13:04,910 made up of war sacrifices connection 253 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:08,779 marriages it's a saga which we can't 254 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:11,300 just brush off because in our last 255 00:13:15,010 --> 00:13:13,910 hundred years with we believe in we 256 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:15,020 believe in all 257 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:17,930 vt that we can be democratic that is the 258 00:13:22,660 --> 00:13:20,810 problem that we can't connect with the 259 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:22,670 aliens because if you read the whole 260 00:13:26,350 --> 00:13:24,529 book you would understand that we will 261 00:13:28,210 --> 00:13:26,360 have to go back a hundred years scrap of 262 00:13:30,210 --> 00:13:28,220 last hundred years over history actually 263 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:30,220 there was 200 years since the Illuminati 264 00:13:34,750 --> 00:13:32,930 met or decreed the order of the luminary 265 00:13:37,620 --> 00:13:34,760 of Asia and all the single societies 266 00:13:41,079 --> 00:13:37,630 that developed after that destroyed 267 00:13:44,590 --> 00:13:41,089 methodically busy links between the 268 00:13:47,170 --> 00:13:44,600 creation of Eden represented in the 269 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:47,180 famous fresco painting by Michelangelo 270 00:13:51,850 --> 00:13:49,610 in the Sistine Chapel and mankind you 271 00:13:54,329 --> 00:13:51,860 have destroyed this connection this 272 00:13:56,579 --> 00:13:54,339 connection was made of respect of 273 00:13:59,260 --> 00:13:56,589 rituals very complicated and complex 274 00:14:01,060 --> 00:13:59,270 between mankind in these entities we 275 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:01,070 can't just meet with them we have to 276 00:14:06,190 --> 00:14:02,959 have a ritual everything is a ritual in 277 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Japan there is a reason because the fire 278 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:09,770 of the Sun is fast in receiving certain 279 00:14:17,050 --> 00:14:13,370 knowledge and of course it's very 280 00:14:18,460 --> 00:14:17,060 difficult for us now at the moment the 281 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:18,470 way we have been brainwashed 282 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:22,850 deliberately to enslave us and this is 283 00:14:33,190 --> 00:14:26,810 very sad you the points that you made 284 00:14:36,340 --> 00:14:33,200 about the the new movements of today 285 00:14:40,060 --> 00:14:36,350 right I thought that that was very 286 00:14:44,019 --> 00:14:40,070 interesting your take on it and the 287 00:14:47,410 --> 00:14:44,029 reason why all of there's different 288 00:14:50,620 --> 00:14:47,420 segments of it of consciousness and and 289 00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:50,630 and and the new side and then there's 290 00:14:56,639 --> 00:14:53,390 there's well it's all branch but it's 291 00:15:02,069 --> 00:14:56,649 it's very interesting their take on on 292 00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:02,079 ET and the possibility of of everything 293 00:15:06,430 --> 00:15:04,790 planned out to help us but we're going 294 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:06,440 to be saved and it's going to be all 295 00:15:12,819 --> 00:15:09,290 about knowledge it's pretty interesting 296 00:15:17,410 --> 00:15:12,829 how you break that down and then compare 297 00:15:20,110 --> 00:15:17,420 it to the very same if it's ET the very 298 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:20,120 same views that not the very same for 299 00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:22,850 you the alternate views of the same 300 00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:26,000 phenomenon which is ET visiting here on 301 00:15:30,620 --> 00:15:27,030 earth and 302 00:15:32,420 --> 00:15:30,630 and why are they here it was I I really 303 00:15:36,410 --> 00:15:32,430 had to sit back I almost kind of laughed 304 00:15:39,230 --> 00:15:36,420 a little bit leo at myself and others 305 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:39,240 because that is truly the case the New 306 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:41,010 Age movement which has been going on 307 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:43,890 since the 60s and the consciousness side 308 00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:48,210 of things and their belief that it's it 309 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:51,240 that if you know that we're going to be 310 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:53,250 elevated to another level which is all 311 00:15:59,660 --> 00:15:57,120 fine but that may not be the case that 312 00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:59,670 we have had people over the years making 313 00:16:03,770 --> 00:16:01,680 the same connections to et that are 314 00:16:10,580 --> 00:16:03,780 coming away with a completely different 315 00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:10,590 view yeah you're absolutely right I 316 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,400 think we need to get back to a different 317 00:16:19,340 --> 00:16:16,560 view because this different view will 318 00:16:23,390 --> 00:16:19,350 bring us to a more serious approach a 319 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:23,400 more academic approach and also a most 320 00:16:29,180 --> 00:16:25,410 sacred approach which is the approach 321 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:29,190 these entities in any case either they 322 00:16:34,450 --> 00:16:31,650 are good or bad they always want a 323 00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:34,460 sacred approach from us it can't be just 324 00:16:41,630 --> 00:16:38,190 very materialistic and sensationalistic 325 00:16:44,020 --> 00:16:41,640 approach and they has been for a long 326 00:16:47,630 --> 00:16:44,030 time as I described in my book 327 00:16:51,830 --> 00:16:47,640 fraternity secret societies upon secret 328 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:51,840 societies built on this contact and that 329 00:16:56,930 --> 00:16:54,180 was because they were following what 330 00:16:59,840 --> 00:16:56,940 Jesus said you can't just throw the 331 00:17:03,080 --> 00:16:59,850 pearls to the pigs and and often 332 00:17:06,770 --> 00:17:03,090 unfortunately in the modern world in 333 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:06,780 this age of sensationalism and also in 334 00:17:11,870 --> 00:17:09,690 the age of materialism we have grasped 335 00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:11,880 religious knowledge in the New Age 336 00:17:18,970 --> 00:17:16,500 movement and materialized it desperate 337 00:17:22,820 --> 00:17:18,980 realize it becoming a spiritual desert 338 00:17:26,810 --> 00:17:22,830 ourselves in the process so we need to 339 00:17:31,570 --> 00:17:26,820 reacquire this real connection and also 340 00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:31,580 the respect to this sacred geography 341 00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:34,860 which is built of sacred places that we 342 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:36,750 have to approach in a completely 343 00:17:42,169 --> 00:17:39,840 different way yes of course I might 344 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:42,179 have to wear a cape all the time and go 345 00:17:49,310 --> 00:17:45,240 there and bow down what the approach has 346 00:17:52,779 --> 00:17:49,320 to be different even for people in the 347 00:17:55,970 --> 00:17:52,789 media world who are working on 348 00:17:58,940 --> 00:17:55,980 documentaries you have to be very 349 00:18:01,159 --> 00:17:58,950 careful because when I went in certain 350 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:01,169 places I haven't filmed anything I 351 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:03,390 haven't even touched anything because I 352 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:05,370 knew exactly what would happen if I did 353 00:18:11,450 --> 00:18:07,890 that let's take a break right here Leo 354 00:18:13,210 --> 00:18:11,460 our guest tonight Leo Sagami and his new 355 00:18:16,610 --> 00:18:13,220 book which we're gonna be discussing 356 00:18:20,210 --> 00:18:16,620 tonight on the show invisible master the 357 00:18:21,580 --> 00:18:20,220 puppeteers hidden power right there it's 358 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,590 an amazing book 359 00:18:26,779 --> 00:18:24,000 this is fade to black i'm your host 360 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:26,789 jimmy church game changer network this 361 00:18:35,539 --> 00:18:31,970 is truly the spoke radio for the masses 362 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:35,549 follow me on twitter at JD oh email is 363 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:37,440 jimmy at jimmy church radio calm I'll be 364 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report and you're 450 00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:49,570 listening to Jimmy church on fade to 451 00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:51,280 black across the globe on the 452 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:53,260 game-changer radio network and the one 453 00:23:07,290 --> 00:22:56,230 and only kgr a radio the planet 454 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:15,890 [Music] 455 00:23:21,140 --> 00:23:17,730 welcome back fade to black I'm the real 456 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:21,150 Jimmy Church on the game changer Network 457 00:23:27,260 --> 00:23:23,700 in kg ra the planets you can follow me 458 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:27,270 on twitter @jj radio simple enough 459 00:23:33,170 --> 00:23:30,480 hashtag f2 B is the sandbox come and 460 00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:33,180 join in on the conversation of course we 461 00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:35,580 have to chat rooms open one over at 462 00:23:41,299 --> 00:23:39,240 Spreaker and one over at K GRA the 463 00:23:43,670 --> 00:23:41,309 planet our guest tonight's Leo's egami 464 00:23:45,650 --> 00:23:43,680 we're talking about his new book and 465 00:23:48,919 --> 00:23:45,660 it's called the invisible master the 466 00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:48,929 puppeteers hidden power now the 467 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:50,400 information here when we're talking 468 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:52,890 about extraterrestrials and et and the 469 00:23:59,090 --> 00:23:57,450 UFO question and and and how it how it 470 00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,100 has affected us and others throughout 471 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:01,679 history is complete this is a book that 472 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:04,020 you're going to want to read as Leo and 473 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:07,170 I discuss some certain points throughout 474 00:24:12,730 --> 00:24:10,290 the book there is so much information in 475 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:12,740 so much detail here we are merely 476 00:24:19,940 --> 00:24:16,110 scratching the surface of of all of this 477 00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:19,950 but Leo your points not only with a 478 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:22,230 certain historical figures which we're 479 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:24,780 going to discuss right now it goes all 480 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:28,080 the way up through to CERN and and 481 00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:31,370 technologies today and you really 482 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:34,559 connect all of the dots you've suggested 483 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:36,450 some of this already during the show 484 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:38,970 we're gonna get to all of that but it's 485 00:24:45,290 --> 00:24:43,230 pretty amazing how it all it all makes 486 00:24:49,250 --> 00:24:45,300 sense the way that you presented it here 487 00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,260 it's a fresh take on things well I hope 488 00:24:53,419 --> 00:24:51,120 it's a different take on things because 489 00:24:58,010 --> 00:24:53,429 the take of somebody who is not really 490 00:25:00,910 --> 00:24:58,020 listening to the ufology world or the 491 00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:00,920 world of the conspiracy theories but is 492 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:06,150 coming from studying mystery schools and 493 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:09,150 secret societies that have unveiled to 494 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:13,650 me many a lot of knowledge but also many 495 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:16,170 experiences that have put me in contact 496 00:25:22,109 --> 00:25:19,530 at one point even with with the entities 497 00:25:24,059 --> 00:25:22,119 with what you call alien 498 00:25:26,339 --> 00:25:24,069 we can't call aliens but have been there 499 00:25:30,209 --> 00:25:26,349 for a long time in various disguises so 500 00:25:33,569 --> 00:25:30,219 I hope that this work which is an 501 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:33,579 experience of a lifetime missable master 502 00:25:41,699 --> 00:25:37,329 might help release step into another 503 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:41,709 level for the study of all this a level 504 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:43,929 that is much closer to the truth and 505 00:25:51,709 --> 00:25:47,769 that might really help mankind act also 506 00:25:55,949 --> 00:25:51,719 upon maybe the consequences of this 507 00:25:59,309 --> 00:25:55,959 contact with these entities like I said 508 00:26:01,439 --> 00:25:59,319 in this book the Roswell accident for 509 00:26:04,649 --> 00:26:01,449 example can be interpreted in a 510 00:26:06,809 --> 00:26:04,659 completely different light for example I 511 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:06,819 want to ask you actually what do you 512 00:26:11,489 --> 00:26:09,039 think of my take on sharing 513 00:26:14,129 --> 00:26:11,499 interdimensional portals in there okay 514 00:26:14,579 --> 00:26:14,139 now now now I wanted to save that for 515 00:26:21,389 --> 00:26:14,589 later 516 00:26:25,609 --> 00:26:21,399 I let me tell you I have been speaking 517 00:26:28,469 --> 00:26:25,619 about CERN on this show and the 518 00:26:31,889 --> 00:26:28,479 interdimensional aspects of it and 519 00:26:35,609 --> 00:26:31,899 portals and opening up a door to things 520 00:26:38,399 --> 00:26:35,619 that we don't have any answers to and I 521 00:26:41,219 --> 00:26:38,409 am very concerned about it you spend a 522 00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:41,229 lot of time on that subject here well 523 00:26:46,949 --> 00:26:44,559 actually we're gonna get to that in a 524 00:26:52,879 --> 00:26:46,959 second because you start to touch upon 525 00:26:54,869 --> 00:26:52,889 it in chapter 2 in chapter 2 you mention 526 00:26:57,749 --> 00:26:54,879 Stargate and your search for the 527 00:27:00,179 --> 00:26:57,759 Stargate now when when most people hear 528 00:27:03,689 --> 00:27:00,189 Stargate they think of roland emmerich 529 00:27:09,329 --> 00:27:03,699 and the movie and and that's fine that 530 00:27:13,139 --> 00:27:09,339 you know okay but yes you do yes you do 531 00:27:17,779 --> 00:27:13,149 it's so and and and your search for the 532 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:17,789 Stargate which is now getting into the 533 00:27:23,539 --> 00:27:21,129 the portal aspect of everything that is 534 00:27:26,069 --> 00:27:23,549 discussed in the rest of the book 535 00:27:28,349 --> 00:27:26,079 because it's my own experience of life 536 00:27:31,019 --> 00:27:28,359 also in this book in fact in Italy this 537 00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:31,029 book actually came out as volume 4 of my 538 00:27:37,169 --> 00:27:35,110 confessions it was a later decision to 539 00:27:38,850 --> 00:27:37,179 market for the US market as the 540 00:27:42,090 --> 00:27:38,860 invisible master and at that point I 541 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:42,100 also added some new parts to make it 542 00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:43,990 even more rich for the english-speaking 543 00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:46,720 world but this is my experiences in my 544 00:27:55,049 --> 00:27:50,799 early twenties when I just got into the 545 00:27:59,490 --> 00:27:55,059 secret societies initiated in 1993 and 546 00:28:01,860 --> 00:27:59,500 also I was practicing a certain magic of 547 00:28:05,010 --> 00:28:01,870 grimoires like the magic of Abramelin 548 00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:05,020 and I was deeply involved in a spiritual 549 00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:07,630 research with myself spiritual research 550 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:09,820 at Le Jimmy that was very heavy 551 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:12,010 meaning that could have turned out to be 552 00:28:17,690 --> 00:28:14,730 a complete disaster and I could have 553 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,700 probably even died at some points of it 554 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:20,080 but fortunately I'm here to talk about 555 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:22,330 it and that's great when you survive 556 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:25,630 certain ordeals and the magical door in 557 00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:30,850 Rome is actually a place is actually an 558 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:33,280 alchemical door that was constructed by 559 00:28:40,909 --> 00:28:37,450 certain eminent alchemists and a Jesuit 560 00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:40,919 known as Athanasius Kircher 561 00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:44,830 and of course it's an incredible story 562 00:28:53,159 --> 00:28:48,940 because I have lived it on myself and 563 00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:53,169 the discovery of this alchemical door 564 00:28:58,020 --> 00:28:56,320 the fact it was itself a portal and that 565 00:29:00,659 --> 00:28:58,030 this description these are chemical 566 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:00,669 ascriptions that surrounded the actually 567 00:29:07,169 --> 00:29:04,230 I found them for the first time 568 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:07,179 indicated in a book book of my 569 00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,110 grandmother a Sicilian grandmother that 570 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:12,880 was very much into the study of Kabbalah 571 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:18,210 and and so I went and searched for this 572 00:29:24,539 --> 00:29:22,510 portal and it was in in Rome in piazza 573 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:24,549 vittorio you can still find it there is 574 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:28,330 a gated you can't really access right in 575 00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:30,610 front of it but you can clearly see it a 576 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:35,520 few meters off the fence and it's 577 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:38,410 impressive because you see the symbols 578 00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:41,830 are very powerful but they are also the 579 00:29:47,570 --> 00:29:44,950 key to something else that is right 580 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:47,580 there in front of you and that it's 581 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:50,130 it's a door which is closed there is no 582 00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:55,650 entrance it's after material level but 583 00:30:01,310 --> 00:29:57,240 there is definitely an entrance at a 584 00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:01,320 spiritual level and this entrance is to 585 00:30:08,380 --> 00:30:04,710 an invisible world an invisible world of 586 00:30:12,980 --> 00:30:08,390 angels and demons and that I of course 587 00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:12,990 unfold in in in this book but also in my 588 00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:16,140 life so it was a very strong experience 589 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:18,510 back then and I talk about it of course 590 00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:21,690 in my book because it was coinciding 591 00:30:27,050 --> 00:30:24,390 also we hid the coming out of that 592 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,060 movies that gate so it kind of like had 593 00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:29,520 a synchronicity also which was 594 00:30:36,430 --> 00:30:32,760 interesting for me at least and and and 595 00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:36,440 helped me go forward in connecting then 596 00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:39,960 the importance of certain places with 597 00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:44,400 these stargates and is interconnecting 598 00:30:49,550 --> 00:30:46,200 with this extra dimensional doors that 599 00:30:51,740 --> 00:30:49,560 are very important for then become in 600 00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:51,750 certain way connected to these entities 601 00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:54,150 because then you are connected to these 602 00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:56,190 entities for the rest of your life in 603 00:31:01,040 --> 00:30:58,500 one way or another of course you don't 604 00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:01,050 want these entities to be the negative 605 00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:02,670 ones and you don't want to turn out 606 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:04,980 possessed something that has happened 607 00:31:09,770 --> 00:31:07,710 even in my life and I we probably what 608 00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:09,780 I'm doing is now preparing a whole book 609 00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:11,670 on the subject of possession and 610 00:31:17,690 --> 00:31:14,190 exorcism but that's something that I'm 611 00:31:23,540 --> 00:31:17,700 doing later on here I am describing it 612 00:31:26,750 --> 00:31:23,550 my my own experience because I have in 613 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:26,760 the early 90s also agreed to change my 614 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:29,490 life and go into the research of 615 00:31:33,770 --> 00:31:31,950 something that was deeper by joining 616 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:33,780 this very secret societies and 617 00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:36,210 especially when it came down to the AAA 618 00:31:41,420 --> 00:31:38,820 or the Ordo Templi Orientis 619 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:41,430 all the trophical Society which as I 620 00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:45,210 show in this book it's not only terrific 621 00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:49,470 a society the negative originator of the 622 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:52,860 New Age movement but in reality it 623 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:55,410 originates also the Holy Father G 624 00:32:00,600 --> 00:31:59,050 movement I show very clearly how 625 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:00,610 [Music] 626 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:02,710 we had people like George Adamski being 627 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:06,070 connected to theosophy or midlane and 628 00:32:10,529 --> 00:32:08,470 all these connections this is area 629 00:32:13,889 --> 00:32:10,539 follow gee what is actually in the 630 00:32:16,409 --> 00:32:13,899 satiric movement and Intel Sophie so in 631 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:16,419 the end what I am bringing here with 632 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:18,220 this book is bringing you back to your 633 00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:21,970 roots this is your roots here is Scott 634 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:23,950 Eden yeah and there's a lot of it here 635 00:32:31,259 --> 00:32:27,970 too as well and you discuss Carla Turner 636 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:31,269 of course in the book at length and and 637 00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:34,690 her section is is is very interesting I 638 00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,039 I miss her a lot and I never she passed 639 00:32:44,009 --> 00:32:41,519 away before I started broadcasting but 640 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:44,019 and be ok ok now we're getting back 641 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:46,450 ahead of ourselves let's back up to this 642 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:51,850 door how exactly does it work and you 643 00:32:56,879 --> 00:32:54,490 had just said to the audience so I want 644 00:32:58,860 --> 00:32:56,889 to clarify that there was no entrance 645 00:33:05,940 --> 00:32:58,870 the it wasn't physical 646 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:05,950 so was the door the actual door is 647 00:33:09,930 --> 00:33:08,320 called the alchemical door the magical 648 00:33:12,930 --> 00:33:09,940 door in Rome you can go and find it even 649 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:12,940 on Wikipedia you can study the the 650 00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:15,850 complex the complex a history of it 651 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:19,990 which it's very interesting but at the 652 00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:24,730 same time for me as I said in in the in 653 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:26,980 the book it's been my own experience and 654 00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:31,450 in this book of my grandmother I had the 655 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:34,630 certain symbols that were decrypted from 656 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:37,360 the symbols that you see on the side of 657 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:39,250 this door because there is actual an 658 00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:43,240 entrance with the is to sort of demons 659 00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:48,190 guarding it right in front of it and you 660 00:33:52,379 --> 00:33:50,470 as I said you can actually go on the 661 00:33:55,139 --> 00:33:52,389 internet and find the pics yourself of 662 00:33:58,259 --> 00:33:55,149 it I also put of course an image in the 663 00:34:02,129 --> 00:33:58,269 book but you have to understand that is 664 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:02,139 a very complex al chemical structure and 665 00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:06,370 symbols that apparently led to the 666 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:09,580 disappearance of all the people involved 667 00:34:14,130 --> 00:34:12,490 in constructing his door in one night 668 00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:14,140 they all died is 669 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:19,030 seriously including including somebody 670 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:21,370 who I think probably everybody knows 671 00:34:28,860 --> 00:34:24,280 because Bernini I mean and everybody 672 00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:28,870 knows the fountains Piazza Navona in 673 00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:33,670 Rome for example or everybody knows that 674 00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:37,510 the meaning was involved with that in 675 00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:42,270 that church that is also described in 676 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:45,340 Dan Brown's angels and demons 677 00:34:52,830 --> 00:34:49,300 so Bernini is it's an important 678 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:52,840 character definitely it's not just any 679 00:35:00,960 --> 00:34:55,570 kind of character but I mean apart from 680 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:00,970 that we have a disappearance of three 681 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:02,530 people connected to the story in one 682 00:35:09,390 --> 00:35:04,090 night and they were connected also to 683 00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:09,400 this swedish queen that had converted to 684 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:13,660 catalysis come to Rome Queen Christina 685 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:18,010 and that never took a position as Queen 686 00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:20,920 but she'd stayed in Rome for a long time 687 00:35:26,970 --> 00:35:23,950 and became the head of a sort of secret 688 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:26,980 society full of alchemists and people 689 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:28,930 from the church that were practicing 690 00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:30,910 alchemy let's remember that the Jesuits 691 00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:33,790 the ones that now see Pope Francis as 692 00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:35,920 the head of the church are the ones who 693 00:35:39,150 --> 00:35:37,480 have been preserving a lot of this 694 00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,160 secret knowledge within the Vatican 695 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:40,960 that's why they are also in charge of 696 00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:43,930 the Vatican archives and of course of 697 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:46,270 all those secrets which probably all 698 00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:48,370 your listeners would like to have now 699 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:52,030 the alchemical door is one of the 700 00:35:58,890 --> 00:35:55,570 craziest things I have ever seen right 701 00:36:01,800 --> 00:35:58,900 and you look at it and well first off 702 00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:01,810 it's just creepy Leo you know that just 703 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:12,070 looking at it what's on the if you just 704 00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:17,350 see it you know something that it's from 705 00:36:23,850 --> 00:36:20,950 another age then you find it creepy but 706 00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:23,860 actually when you you start learning 707 00:36:27,470 --> 00:36:25,990 about those symbols you find it quite 708 00:36:37,739 --> 00:36:27,480 welcome 709 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:37,749 remember a very creepy feel that has to 710 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:42,970 scare the profane and and those two 711 00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:46,930 guards definitely do just that right if 712 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:48,990 you're not worthy 713 00:36:53,249 --> 00:36:51,369 you're not going to if you don't possess 714 00:36:54,509 --> 00:36:53,259 the knowledge to even understand this 715 00:36:56,789 --> 00:36:54,519 you're gonna look at those guards and 716 00:36:59,579 --> 00:36:56,799 walk away I mean it's it's pretty but 717 00:37:03,269 --> 00:36:59,589 what's on the other side of it right of 718 00:37:05,730 --> 00:37:03,279 the wall what's behind it is just it's 719 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:05,740 just actually you know at the moment 720 00:37:10,349 --> 00:37:07,690 because the old bill is not there 721 00:37:13,049 --> 00:37:10,359 anymore we are in the center of Rome in 722 00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:13,059 a garden that then behind is just 723 00:37:17,789 --> 00:37:15,670 actually the edge of the fence and they 724 00:37:21,089 --> 00:37:17,799 said basically in the middle of a square 725 00:37:23,099 --> 00:37:21,099 right so they had to so the rest of the 726 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:23,109 bill is not there any longer it's now 727 00:37:28,769 --> 00:37:25,990 just you know like it's a portal to 728 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:28,779 nothing it's right there something it's 729 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:30,730 it supported to nothing in a sense that 730 00:37:35,489 --> 00:37:33,190 behind that is wall is very thick wall 731 00:37:37,890 --> 00:37:35,499 right and then after there is nothing 732 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:37,900 now some people said that maybe in the 733 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:40,150 past was there was actually something in 734 00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,170 it that it was actually an open door to 735 00:37:49,499 --> 00:37:46,480 somewhere or maybe to a little room a 736 00:37:53,099 --> 00:37:49,509 little a chemical laboratory in which 737 00:37:57,690 --> 00:37:53,109 these people who worked around it like 738 00:38:00,359 --> 00:37:57,700 Athanasius Kircher and Christina of 739 00:38:03,509 --> 00:38:00,369 Sweden and all these people then could 740 00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:03,519 connect to another realm maybe through 741 00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:05,950 the use of substances through the use of 742 00:38:12,029 --> 00:38:08,470 complex rituals I know for sure one 743 00:38:14,759 --> 00:38:12,039 thing that even recently some Italian 744 00:38:17,759 --> 00:38:14,769 politicians have used this place in the 745 00:38:22,319 --> 00:38:17,769 middle of the night for rituals I even 746 00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:22,329 know their names now what happened what 747 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:25,420 I actually got elected well what 748 00:38:33,539 --> 00:38:28,930 happened to you you're in your 20s and 749 00:38:36,569 --> 00:38:33,549 and you seek out this door we're there 750 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:36,579 did you perform a ritual did you say 751 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:38,770 something did you meditate 752 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:42,210 what happened and what did you see I was 753 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:45,160 right in that period the practicing that 754 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:49,090 is very long the ritual which is called 755 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:51,310 is a grimoire a sport the magic of a 756 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:53,650 Brahman in the mage which actually 757 00:38:59,550 --> 00:38:55,690 brings you in contact with the series of 758 00:39:03,360 --> 00:38:59,560 demons you need to dominate in order to 759 00:39:07,770 --> 00:39:03,370 then be able to fully conversate with 760 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:07,780 your angelic side and to discover your 761 00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:09,970 earlier guardian angel you have to 762 00:39:13,950 --> 00:39:11,920 basically dominate so dominate all the 763 00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:13,960 demonic side so then you can have access 764 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:16,360 to the angelic realm it's a very complex 765 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:20,650 ritual very few people completed it even 766 00:39:27,390 --> 00:39:23,920 Aleister Crowley kind of like backed off 767 00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:27,400 for a period then he took it on again 768 00:39:31,710 --> 00:39:29,620 while in China and he said he eventually 769 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:31,720 completed it but in between there was a 770 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:33,970 lot of drama it's definitely something 771 00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:38,050 that is very dangerous for any magician 772 00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:41,260 because I can describe you this ritual 773 00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:44,500 as being for me a turning point and my 774 00:39:49,170 --> 00:39:46,870 contact with the alien world literally 775 00:39:52,050 --> 00:39:49,180 the alien world because what I'm gonna 776 00:39:54,510 --> 00:39:52,060 tell you is pretty far out but it 777 00:39:56,610 --> 00:39:54,520 happened and people can go in Rome and 778 00:39:58,890 --> 00:39:56,620 eventually they can go and study these 779 00:40:00,780 --> 00:39:58,900 places because it happened behind Campo 780 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:00,790 de Fiori world is the statue of Judah no 781 00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:03,730 Brune where I used to live in this old 782 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:08,220 puppet theatre that every Sunday the two 783 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:11,680 adopted daughters of Albert Einstein who 784 00:40:15,150 --> 00:40:13,690 were Jewish who were adopted by Einstein 785 00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:15,160 because they were Jewish and they were 786 00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:17,920 persecuted the parents during the the 787 00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:21,220 war we are 75 years today from the Shoah 788 00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:23,200 so we should remember also this 789 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:25,960 especially in Italy where the racial 790 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:29,410 laws cause so much problems but what 791 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:31,570 happened was that they were adopted by 792 00:40:38,070 --> 00:40:34,770 Anniston they had this way they became 793 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:38,080 psychiatrist and they actually knew my 794 00:40:43,170 --> 00:40:40,630 father collaborated with my father one 795 00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:43,180 of them also became involved in the 796 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:43,750 movie business 797 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:46,930 they called the sur le mot city the 798 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:48,730 Meseta sisters they are still actually 799 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:50,650 in the still living the TWiT two twins 800 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:52,330 sisters 801 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:54,760 so they open this very of the puppet 802 00:41:00,750 --> 00:40:58,050 theater on a Sunday for English speaking 803 00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:00,760 puppets so basically the Italian could 804 00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:02,110 go there or the English could go there 805 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:04,030 but they were it was an English speaking 806 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:06,970 puppet field on a Sunday behind campoli 807 00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:10,410 field what does it mean a puppet theatre 808 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:14,470 it was given to me to live that as long 809 00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:17,110 as I could leave it on a Sunday so on a 810 00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:19,390 Sunday knew like couldn't be that 811 00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,920 because of course they had to have their 812 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:22,480 own private field but the rest of the 813 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:25,030 week I was living there and I was living 814 00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:26,710 there and practicing this magic of I 815 00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:31,990 remained image because the ritual could 816 00:41:37,050 --> 00:41:34,480 only be performed the feudin had these 817 00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:37,060 children coming every week and bringing 818 00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:42,670 out this energy Wow away okay yeah so it 819 00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:44,910 was a pretty spooky think 820 00:41:52,350 --> 00:41:49,750 freaking out right now yeah but what I 821 00:41:55,110 --> 00:41:52,360 can tell you is that at one point a lot 822 00:41:57,150 --> 00:41:55,120 of things started to go on in this place 823 00:42:06,990 --> 00:41:57,160 in the webosphere that during the week 824 00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:07,000 that was very very x-files and and at 825 00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:10,510 one point I came into contact and this 826 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:13,150 contact was very defined because they 827 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:16,090 just got me to sit down and write down 828 00:42:23,970 --> 00:42:19,960 things very technical first of all on 829 00:42:27,150 --> 00:42:23,980 how to talk with them and get encounter 830 00:42:29,730 --> 00:42:27,160 with this this entity in a way that was 831 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:29,740 technically friendly for them they were 832 00:42:34,050 --> 00:42:32,050 very technical so I remember it just I 833 00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:34,060 wrote 44 pages during the period of time 834 00:42:39,150 --> 00:42:37,180 but they were very much interest of 835 00:42:42,540 --> 00:42:39,160 mathematics geometry because you have to 836 00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:42,550 also go through their own rules but in 837 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:44,320 the end basically they revealed to me 838 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:46,930 they were squadron they were a squadron 839 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:49,660 meaning a military squadron and they 840 00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:53,490 gave me the codes of access of the 841 00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:55,380 spaceships that they were basically 842 00:43:04,280 --> 00:42:59,200 running around and doing this operation 843 00:43:07,820 --> 00:43:04,290 with I was there in this public field 844 00:43:10,510 --> 00:43:07,830 I mean it was pretty far out man because 845 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:10,520 at one point what happened was that 846 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:13,410 somebody came through that door that I 847 00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,010 will have never expected her name is 848 00:43:21,770 --> 00:43:18,720 Gabriela ferry one of the most famous 849 00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,780 Italian singers who then suicide the 850 00:43:25,850 --> 00:43:23,760 surf later on in the in the late 851 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:25,860 nineties soon after the 90s 852 00:43:31,850 --> 00:43:29,250 unfortunately the Bella ferry was is a 853 00:43:34,310 --> 00:43:31,860 silver guarded today as an historical 854 00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:34,320 singer in Rome like the singer that are 855 00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:38,190 seeing at the heart of Rome really Roman 856 00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:40,860 she was a to re she was coming from the 857 00:43:48,140 --> 00:43:44,520 desert of Tunisia she had a tradition 858 00:43:49,850 --> 00:43:48,150 with the Jean with the entities and what 859 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:49,860 happened was that she knocked my door 860 00:43:55,310 --> 00:43:51,690 one afternoon while I was in the puppet 861 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:55,320 theater and she said tonton saying who 862 00:43:59,840 --> 00:43:58,410 who is it I was there with my assistant 863 00:44:03,350 --> 00:43:59,850 at the time I had a Sega T because I 864 00:44:04,850 --> 00:44:03,360 also had a very big business going on 865 00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:04,860 with the music business and stuff so I 866 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:06,780 had of course somebody assisting me in 867 00:44:11,570 --> 00:44:08,490 it so I was there with the secretary of 868 00:44:15,530 --> 00:44:11,580 mine and Santi the doorknob Sanchez who 869 00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:15,540 is a bellyful I this is a puppet field I 870 00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:17,790 was very particular because it had two 871 00:44:22,310 --> 00:44:20,520 entrances it's very picturesque very 872 00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:22,320 beautiful one of the entrances was isn't 873 00:44:29,570 --> 00:44:26,760 smooth very small Holloway next to a 874 00:44:31,070 --> 00:44:29,580 restroom and then that was the side door 875 00:44:33,860 --> 00:44:31,080 that where the people were actually 876 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:33,870 going in on a sound then there was my 877 00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:36,690 entrance in the courtyard amazing 878 00:44:41,060 --> 00:44:38,760 quarter in the center of Rome which 879 00:44:42,830 --> 00:44:41,070 really seemed out of a movie incredibly 880 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:42,840 beautiful but the Bella Fairy came from 881 00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:45,690 the other from the side way and she said 882 00:44:50,540 --> 00:44:47,310 I heard about you 883 00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:50,550 I heard what you're doing I was right 884 00:44:57,350 --> 00:44:54,480 and that was pretty freaky because at 885 00:44:58,700 --> 00:44:57,360 the time everybody knew me as a DJ yes 886 00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,710 of course I could have been a great 887 00:45:01,820 --> 00:45:00,480 person in the music business I was very 888 00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:01,830 famous I was the guy who invented 889 00:45:07,070 --> 00:45:05,190 Italian raves whatever but nobody knew 890 00:45:10,370 --> 00:45:07,080 me for this side of things there was 891 00:45:15,140 --> 00:45:10,380 very few people who had access to that 892 00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:15,150 kind of Leo Leo we're gonna hit a break 893 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:17,550 here in a second how did she find out 894 00:45:23,540 --> 00:45:17,970 about 895 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:23,550 ferry the blonde Italian ser right yeah 896 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:26,130 okay this is this is uh this is pretty 897 00:45:32,810 --> 00:45:28,010 amazing how did she find out about you 898 00:45:34,609 --> 00:45:32,820 we never I mean I spent the whole day 899 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:34,619 with her after and I will tell you what 900 00:45:43,849 --> 00:45:38,250 happened but she never told me who told 901 00:45:46,339 --> 00:45:43,859 it that is crazy that is crazy 902 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,349 okay well we'll pick up with that after 903 00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:48,720 the break back to the door the door 904 00:45:55,099 --> 00:45:51,720 itself the alchemical door you do the 905 00:45:59,300 --> 00:45:55,109 more I did the mage ceremony you 906 00:46:00,800 --> 00:45:59,310 completed it I've got two minutes before 907 00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:00,810 the break what happened when he 908 00:46:06,770 --> 00:46:04,980 completed the ritual well I mean the 909 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:06,780 problem is that I had to interrupt it 910 00:46:10,220 --> 00:46:08,400 because of the door because something 911 00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:10,230 happened but we'll take more than two 912 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:11,910 minutes I'm afraid we will not be able 913 00:46:19,580 --> 00:46:14,730 to do it before the break so I mean I 914 00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:19,590 had an image I photocopied the image of 915 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:21,060 the door that was in my grandmother's 916 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:24,210 book with these secret codes that were 917 00:46:28,430 --> 00:46:26,130 in it this is a very very rare 918 00:46:29,690 --> 00:46:28,440 publication I still have it that was 919 00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:29,700 published in Naples 920 00:46:34,820 --> 00:46:33,119 I made a photocopy and I went to the 921 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:34,830 Chinese restaurant that was on the other 922 00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:36,810 side of the road the link between the 923 00:46:40,220 --> 00:46:38,550 Chinese restaurant and Piazza Vittorio 924 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:40,230 we'll have to talk about after the break 925 00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:42,210 because it's a little bit a long one and 926 00:46:47,210 --> 00:46:45,060 it involves the Chinese triads okay 927 00:46:50,210 --> 00:46:47,220 let's uh you know what let's just take a 928 00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:50,220 break right here I've got to I've got to 929 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:52,920 do this and and I'm gonna do that there 930 00:46:56,660 --> 00:46:55,290 we go well take a break right here this 931 00:46:58,970 --> 00:46:56,670 is fade to black I'm you know Jimmy 932 00:47:01,040 --> 00:46:58,980 Church my guest tonight Leo's egami 933 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:01,050 we're talking about his new amazing book 934 00:47:07,070 --> 00:47:03,690 it's just been published the invisible 935 00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:07,080 master the puppeteers hidden power live 936 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,390 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00:51:57,780 new book it was just published it is 1021 00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,569 called the invisible master the 1022 00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:03,119 puppeteers hidden power it's an amazing 1023 00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:06,480 read amazing read now right before the 1024 00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:07,760 break 1025 00:52:15,770 --> 00:52:13,140 trying to get clarity on what happened 1026 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:15,780 at the alchemical door I've posted 1027 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:18,650 pictures of the door there in Rome and 1028 00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:22,410 it is that's that's a that's a sight to 1029 00:52:28,299 --> 00:52:25,380 behold that's a pretty amazed how old is 1030 00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:28,309 the door leo is there any dating on it 1031 00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:30,839 well I mean an exact dating I don't 1032 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:32,910 think is present on their chemical door 1033 00:52:39,530 --> 00:52:36,569 but the period day is around the second 1034 00:52:44,089 --> 00:52:39,540 half of the sixth the 17th century 1035 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:44,099 there you go okay so take us through it 1036 00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:48,720 I mean if we had to say the exact the 1037 00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,319 year it will be between 1678 and 1680 1038 00:52:58,039 --> 00:52:55,440 this could be it right 1039 00:53:00,829 --> 00:52:58,049 it is also known as the door of the 1040 00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:00,839 skies so that's a lot an interesting 1041 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:02,520 name because usually we call it a 1042 00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:04,890 magical door that automatic door there 1043 00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:06,990 chemical but it's also known as the door 1044 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:10,260 of disguise so it's actually known as 1045 00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:13,170 something that is an access portal to 1046 00:53:19,130 --> 00:53:16,319 disguise it's a it's a Stargate man it's 1047 00:53:22,190 --> 00:53:19,140 a Stargate and and not only that this is 1048 00:53:23,539 --> 00:53:22,200 what is interesting is your experience 1049 00:53:25,819 --> 00:53:23,549 that you talk about here at the 1050 00:53:33,250 --> 00:53:25,829 beginning of the book in chapter 2 about 1051 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:33,260 this your references to these types of 1052 00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:35,970 opportunities let's call it right 1053 00:53:42,620 --> 00:53:38,640 portals accessing portals opening up 1054 00:53:44,450 --> 00:53:42,630 portals you reference through out the 1055 00:53:46,940 --> 00:53:44,460 rest of the book and we're gonna get to 1056 00:53:49,099 --> 00:53:46,950 CERN I promise everybody but it's also 1057 00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:49,109 Aleister Crowley and it's others 1058 00:53:55,609 --> 00:53:52,910 throughout history that have gone and 1059 00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:55,619 opened up these portals and I've had 1060 00:53:59,840 --> 00:53:58,079 access to it going back to him we talked 1061 00:54:03,440 --> 00:53:59,850 to the beginning of the show all the 1062 00:54:05,420 --> 00:54:03,450 back to Jesus Moses and other historical 1063 00:54:08,140 --> 00:54:05,430 figure and you were saying about the 1064 00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:08,150 bloodline was so important well because 1065 00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,220 in the end they also describe how this 1066 00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:13,680 bloodline of Jesus the bad breath in a 1067 00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:16,110 certain way linked to this entities 1068 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:17,550 could have filtered even in my own 1069 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:20,250 bloodline because that's where I come 1070 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:22,650 from the Lyon family also there is also 1071 00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:25,410 this connection so I described how the 1072 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:28,500 aristocracy and the royalty wanted to 1073 00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:31,050 keep a sort of exclusivity around this 1074 00:54:34,310 --> 00:54:32,460 connection now for the first time today 1075 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:34,320 we are revealing with this book for your 1076 00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:36,810 listeners on the earth that there is 1077 00:54:42,620 --> 00:54:39,900 something really tangible in the rare 1078 00:54:46,570 --> 00:54:42,630 modes of secret societies regarding the 1079 00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:46,580 connection with the alien reality now 1080 00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:51,150 the the the ritual that ceremony 1081 00:54:57,710 --> 00:54:54,720 I had read Crowley's own words about it 1082 00:55:01,340 --> 00:54:57,720 and how he pursued it over the years and 1083 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:01,350 never managed to complete it well he did 1084 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:03,090 eventually complete it but he spent 1085 00:55:09,830 --> 00:55:08,130 years trying to get to the end yes 1086 00:55:12,050 --> 00:55:09,840 because as I said at one point I had to 1087 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:12,060 interrupt it because what happened was I 1088 00:55:17,930 --> 00:55:15,810 got really deep in touch with this 1089 00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:17,940 magical door in the mix of the magic of 1090 00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:21,180 abimael in the mage and so because the 1091 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:24,150 Chinese civil society the Chinese 1092 00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:26,730 Freemasonry the hung which controlled 1093 00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:28,920 the Triads was taking control of piazza 1094 00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:31,260 vittorio which they actually did in that 1095 00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:34,200 moment of time they were actually taking 1096 00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:37,020 control of the whole area which became 1097 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:40,230 basically a chinatown of rome so for me 1098 00:55:46,220 --> 00:55:42,930 was very important to go to the chinese 1099 00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:46,230 heads and say listen guys this is not 1100 00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:47,910 just a part of rome there is also a 1101 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:49,980 magical side to it and these are the 1102 00:55:54,850 --> 00:55:53,010 secrets beware of it and keep it in mind 1103 00:56:01,310 --> 00:55:54,860 and that's what they did 1104 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:01,320 and there's i my confessions by the way 1105 00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:04,170 so it's in detail apart from here of 1106 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:05,760 course we're talking about the Abramelin 1107 00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:10,240 in my new book okay so now let's uh 1108 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:15,720 let's get to the moment when something 1109 00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:18,310 spiritual and mystical happened to you 1110 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:20,710 in front of this door when you completed 1111 00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:24,250 the ritual what happened well I was 1112 00:56:34,859 --> 00:56:29,260 inside the be the actual puppet theater 1113 00:56:37,050 --> 00:56:34,869 at that point which might be I mean as a 1114 00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:37,060 distance from the magical door we're 1115 00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:40,470 talking about a 15-minute distance okay 1116 00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:43,360 but it was dead that I was centering my 1117 00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:45,760 own temple for what I was trying to 1118 00:56:52,380 --> 00:56:48,100 evoke and time to also in some ways 1119 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:52,390 dominate and to achieve this privilege 1120 00:57:04,320 --> 00:56:58,210 alien contact so I was there and at one 1121 00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:04,330 point I was kind of paralyzed when I had 1122 00:57:15,090 --> 00:57:10,240 this light with a very light bluish kind 1123 00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:15,100 of border so this very strong white 1124 00:57:23,370 --> 00:57:20,440 light manifesting in front of me and I 1125 00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:23,380 was petrified I mean I was petrified 1126 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:25,660 because it was moving around the room 1127 00:57:33,330 --> 00:57:28,930 and it was arrived in front of me and at 1128 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:33,340 that point I kind of forced myself out 1129 00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:35,530 of my body because I couldn't really 1130 00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,710 move my material body but I noticed that 1131 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:40,720 when I gave up trying to move my 1132 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:43,690 material body I could actually move Maya 1133 00:57:49,590 --> 00:57:46,210 terial body which of course is different 1134 00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:49,600 also in the endo in the way it moves but 1135 00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:52,510 I kind of moved out of my body was a 1136 00:57:58,859 --> 00:57:54,910 very strange sensation towards this 1137 00:58:03,960 --> 00:57:58,869 light and then it went down on the 1138 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:03,970 surface of of the of the place where I 1139 00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:05,890 was the puppet field and kind of it 1140 00:58:13,710 --> 00:58:10,720 around and it gave me the sensation that 1141 00:58:17,609 --> 00:58:13,720 I was kind of transported in it in a way 1142 00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:17,619 I let myself go with it and then 1143 00:58:23,140 --> 00:58:20,740 eventually I managed to regain control 1144 00:58:25,450 --> 00:58:23,150 of myself 1145 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:25,460 and then the soul thing this light 1146 00:58:30,430 --> 00:58:27,410 disappeared and at that point I could 1147 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:30,440 finally move but the experience was very 1148 00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:35,210 strong because at that time I was as I 1149 00:58:40,570 --> 00:58:37,760 said trying to dominate dark forces in 1150 00:58:42,460 --> 00:58:40,580 order to achieve something angelic that 1151 00:58:45,820 --> 00:58:42,470 could communicate with me and this light 1152 00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:45,830 was obviously something angelic was had 1153 00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:48,310 a very good feeling it had no negative 1154 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:52,640 connotations when instead when I was 1155 00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:56,570 giving myself into mediumship to shift 1156 00:59:03,280 --> 00:58:58,400 contact with these entities attainment 1157 00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:03,290 were totally much more militarized in 1158 00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:05,510 the way they operate as we know demons 1159 00:59:11,170 --> 00:59:09,110 are very militarized that's why I also 1160 00:59:14,860 --> 00:59:11,180 worn very much people in this book 1161 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:14,870 listen there is a whole reality here 1162 00:59:20,350 --> 00:59:16,970 which is connected also with demonology 1163 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:20,360 that's why Corrado Balducci was also an 1164 00:59:28,090 --> 00:59:22,490 exorcist before becoming a famous of 1165 00:59:30,550 --> 00:59:28,100 ologist V you mentioned when he made the 1166 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:30,560 alien contact back at the Apollo Theater 1167 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:34,250 that they were how did you describe the 1168 00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:40,490 group as a squadron squadron a squadron 1169 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:43,910 a squadron and they gave me actually 1170 00:59:49,150 --> 00:59:46,370 some numbers which I actually studied 1171 00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:49,160 later on now I have unfortunately these 1172 00:59:56,260 --> 00:59:53,230 44 papers some time ago not so long ago 1173 00:59:59,710 --> 00:59:56,270 around 10 years ago where a stolen from 1174 01:00:03,490 --> 00:59:59,720 me and I never photocopied them 1175 01:00:05,620 --> 01:00:03,500 I never photocopied them it was other 1176 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:05,630 people photocopied them from the 1177 01:00:12,220 --> 01:00:08,330 government I don't have copies anymore 1178 01:00:14,380 --> 01:00:12,230 myself which is pretty sad but they 1179 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:14,390 describe the surface and also with 1180 01:00:22,270 --> 01:00:17,570 numbers they identify themselves so the 1181 01:00:25,390 --> 01:00:22,280 the squadrons had specific each one of 1182 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:25,400 them had a specific number and they were 1183 01:00:30,070 --> 01:00:27,050 they were very militarized in their 1184 01:00:32,350 --> 01:00:30,080 approach definitely I mean what's up at 1185 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:32,360 one point was they brought me behind the 1186 01:00:34,750 --> 01:00:34,250 were in the puppet theater you could go 1187 01:00:37,210 --> 01:00:34,760 back 1188 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:37,220 the scene where you actually play with 1189 01:00:42,250 --> 01:00:40,130 the puppets now and this whole scene 1190 01:00:45,550 --> 01:00:42,260 behind there because it was very small 1191 01:00:46,930 --> 01:00:45,560 it really looked like some kind of 1192 01:00:48,550 --> 01:00:46,940 spaceship in the way you know you 1193 01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:48,560 maneuver all the money the things for 1194 01:00:52,990 --> 01:00:50,510 the the purpose the things you know and 1195 01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:53,000 they kind of place me in front of them 1196 01:01:00,820 --> 01:00:56,950 in front of there for a meditation and 1197 01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:00,830 and my pressure no was that the the kind 1198 01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:04,880 of wanted me to use this as a kind of 1199 01:01:11,140 --> 01:01:07,670 time capsule that was ended actually 1200 01:01:13,780 --> 01:01:11,150 time in space and and became like an 1201 01:01:17,620 --> 01:01:13,790 extra dimensional capsule that could go 1202 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:17,630 into the reality because what they were 1203 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:20,810 doing was to monitor the Vatican and I 1204 01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:25,730 was right there I was living behind also 1205 01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:28,910 very very strong place energetically the 1206 01:01:35,620 --> 01:01:32,150 place where Giordano Bruno was killed 1207 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:35,630 for his even not only for is not for not 1208 01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:37,730 believing in certain dogmas of the 1209 01:01:42,190 --> 01:01:39,710 church but also for believing in the 1210 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:42,200 existence of many words and many 1211 01:01:47,530 --> 01:01:44,330 creatures from these worlds 1212 01:01:50,290 --> 01:01:47,540 I mean Giordano Bruno was an apologist 1213 01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:50,300 of his days as we know was actually 1214 01:01:55,390 --> 01:01:51,910 killed there 1215 01:01:55,870 --> 01:01:55,400 so literally they if you go to Campo de 1216 01:01:58,030 --> 01:01:55,880 Fiori 1217 01:01:59,830 --> 01:01:58,040 if an American to disclose to Campo de 1218 01:02:01,390 --> 01:01:59,840 Fiori I can tell them exactly how to get 1219 01:02:03,849 --> 01:02:01,400 to this place because it has also very 1220 01:02:05,290 --> 01:02:03,859 picturesque entrance to it you are in 1221 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:05,300 Campo de Fiori in front of the statue 1222 01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:07,490 Giordano Bruno you take the left you go 1223 01:02:12,430 --> 01:02:09,950 straight on at the end of the square you 1224 01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:12,440 will see there is a side way and there 1225 01:02:18,340 --> 01:02:14,960 is a kind of arch with the holy Mary and 1226 01:02:20,170 --> 01:02:18,350 a small and Anna gate which is open own 1227 01:02:22,270 --> 01:02:20,180 in the day you can go through it and 1228 01:02:23,710 --> 01:02:22,280 then you arrive in another square and 1229 01:02:24,910 --> 01:02:23,720 you are on the right there and then 1230 01:02:30,310 --> 01:02:24,920 there is a side that turns to this 1231 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:30,320 puppet theatre so it was something of a 1232 01:02:36,550 --> 01:02:34,130 connection which I'm very happy for 1233 01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:36,560 having experienced but it was pretty 1234 01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:40,660 scary at some some time and at one point 1235 01:02:46,820 --> 01:02:44,960 the experiment when went went wrong in a 1236 01:02:49,550 --> 01:02:46,830 way because 1237 01:02:52,940 --> 01:02:49,560 the one of the entities took possession 1238 01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:52,950 on myself and it took me some time to 1239 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:56,070 get out of it so every now and then when 1240 01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:57,570 you practice the magic circles and 1241 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:00,000 sacred Vermillion the major other 1242 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:02,730 grimoires the the main problem is that 1243 01:03:08,330 --> 01:03:04,890 you can get possessed but in in the in 1244 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:08,340 that case you lose your objectivity and 1245 01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:12,450 also you can risk your own life because 1246 01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:14,460 these entities would make you do things 1247 01:03:18,860 --> 01:03:16,230 that are completely out of this world 1248 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:18,870 talking other languages doing things 1249 01:03:27,530 --> 01:03:25,170 that are so this this experience was 1250 01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:27,540 very strong and I'm glad I'm here to be 1251 01:03:32,540 --> 01:03:30,510 able to tell it to tell it to you but it 1252 01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:32,550 was very difficult at times especially 1253 01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:36,000 because then it got me a little bit 1254 01:03:42,620 --> 01:03:39,240 unbalanced to learn certain things in 1255 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:42,630 advance now I wanted to ask you leo 1256 01:03:49,130 --> 01:03:46,050 let's go let's go back to the squadron 1257 01:03:51,050 --> 01:03:49,140 for so when I say this quadrant 1258 01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:51,060 transmitted me also projections of the 1259 01:03:56,510 --> 01:03:54,240 future that was a big thing yeah let's 1260 01:04:03,590 --> 01:03:56,520 stay right there for a second 1261 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:03,600 were you able to capture an image of one 1262 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:05,490 of the members of the squadron the 1263 01:04:14,140 --> 01:04:09,530 reason why I'm asking was it similar to 1264 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:14,150 lamb was it similar to what Crowley 1265 01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:18,210 experienced yeah it was similar to what 1266 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:23,160 the Carroll experience but I didn't ever 1267 01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:25,970 want to see them every time they 1268 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:30,720 manifested I gave them maybe the I was 1269 01:04:35,060 --> 01:04:32,610 also bringing offerings to them and they 1270 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:35,070 literally took them they disappeared I 1271 01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:36,810 mean I bring them in the center of the 1272 01:04:43,940 --> 01:04:38,310 room and these offerings were literally 1273 01:04:46,250 --> 01:04:43,950 disappear and it was at times very scary 1274 01:04:48,290 --> 01:04:46,260 for me because I say who who connect I 1275 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:48,300 mean it was impossible to get into a 1276 01:04:53,030 --> 01:04:50,730 place there were bars it was in the 1277 01:04:54,830 --> 01:04:53,040 center of Rome and there were no other 1278 01:04:58,880 --> 01:04:54,840 people that could have the keys to this 1279 01:05:00,059 --> 01:04:58,890 place and still things which I was 1280 01:05:01,769 --> 01:05:00,069 giving as offerings 1281 01:05:03,779 --> 01:05:01,779 were disappearing in the center of the 1282 01:05:06,809 --> 01:05:03,789 room so I knew that the portal was 1283 01:05:09,420 --> 01:05:06,819 activated right there because that was 1284 01:05:11,549 --> 01:05:09,430 also very powerful place regardless of 1285 01:05:13,319 --> 01:05:11,559 the chemical or the magical door which 1286 01:05:14,849 --> 01:05:13,329 as I said for me was important to 1287 01:05:17,999 --> 01:05:14,859 understand this whole concept but what I 1288 01:05:22,709 --> 01:05:18,009 was living there in the puppet theater 1289 01:05:26,579 --> 01:05:22,719 was equally as strong and in and of 1290 01:05:28,890 --> 01:05:26,589 course at the same time I was making my 1291 01:05:33,569 --> 01:05:28,900 first moves in the order in magical 1292 01:05:37,859 --> 01:05:33,579 order of the AAA I was connecting later 1293 01:05:40,439 --> 01:05:37,869 on with the OTO with other groups like 1294 01:05:43,469 --> 01:05:40,449 the Golden Dawn and other groups around 1295 01:05:46,829 --> 01:05:43,479 the world that were doing magic within 1296 01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:46,839 what is the Illuminati Network because 1297 01:05:52,009 --> 01:05:49,119 of my bloodline because of the fact that 1298 01:05:53,999 --> 01:05:52,019 was linked to chaos TRO that is another 1299 01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,009 count chaos through which was 1300 01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:56,319 brilliantly represented by also Wells as 1301 01:06:02,670 --> 01:05:59,920 you know right and chaos TRO easy my 1302 01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:02,680 family life is actually related to me 1303 01:06:08,489 --> 01:06:05,680 and he became a sort of mentor a sort of 1304 01:06:11,069 --> 01:06:08,499 invisible master a guide you need in the 1305 01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:11,079 invisible realm a guy and I was 1306 01:06:20,299 --> 01:06:14,049 searching for one and chaos trow became 1307 01:06:24,539 --> 01:06:20,309 that guy and it was at that point that 1308 01:06:29,130 --> 01:06:24,549 something went really wrong when a group 1309 01:06:31,259 --> 01:06:29,140 of plainclothes policemen one night I 1310 01:06:33,630 --> 01:06:31,269 was practicing the ritual and from time 1311 01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:33,640 to time I would just go outside to get 1312 01:06:39,390 --> 01:06:36,190 some fool or something and I got in an 1313 01:06:42,749 --> 01:06:39,400 argument with this because I was wearing 1314 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:42,759 some ritual thing on me while I was 1315 01:06:45,660 --> 01:06:44,410 going outside the door of course you 1316 01:06:47,219 --> 01:06:45,670 know people could have just mind their 1317 01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:47,229 own business you know I mean I wasn't 1318 01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:48,910 doing anything to anybody but this 1319 01:06:53,309 --> 01:06:51,039 policeman plays plainclothes policeman I 1320 01:06:56,039 --> 01:06:53,319 didn't know they were policemen kind of 1321 01:06:58,049 --> 01:06:56,049 said something to me and so I started a 1322 01:07:00,359 --> 01:06:58,059 fight that ended up with me being 1323 01:07:01,650 --> 01:07:00,369 arrested at that point because I was in 1324 01:07:04,769 --> 01:07:01,660 the middle of the ritual and I wasn't 1325 01:07:07,529 --> 01:07:04,779 myself they couldn't get my name and 1326 01:07:09,390 --> 01:07:07,539 they had the the head of the police had 1327 01:07:11,579 --> 01:07:09,400 to call his wife who studied Kabbalah to 1328 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:11,589 understand what I was saying and would 1329 01:07:19,650 --> 01:07:15,130 I was and around six o'clock in the 1330 01:07:25,170 --> 01:07:19,660 morning the police undestood it was me I 1331 01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:25,180 would it but then they wanted to lock me 1332 01:07:29,819 --> 01:07:27,729 up because for them I was dangerous what 1333 01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:29,829 I was doing was of course perceived by 1334 01:07:33,959 --> 01:07:30,880 dividing and it's very dangerous 1335 01:07:36,029 --> 01:07:33,969 dividing I had already sent to the 1336 01:07:39,509 --> 01:07:36,039 puppet theater representatives of the 1337 01:07:41,969 --> 01:07:39,519 Knights of Malta a few few months a 1338 01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:41,979 couple of months early yeah that was 1339 01:07:47,759 --> 01:07:44,710 also part of the whole thing I mean that 1340 01:07:51,059 --> 01:07:47,769 I had to deal with but they were very 1341 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:51,069 polite not like they came there and they 1342 01:07:56,519 --> 01:07:53,410 fret them you anything no no no no they 1343 01:07:58,170 --> 01:07:56,529 were very respectful because just being 1344 01:08:00,029 --> 01:07:58,180 respectful of the fact of who I was you 1345 01:08:02,190 --> 01:08:00,039 know my connection with my family on 1346 01:08:04,589 --> 01:08:02,200 both my mother and father's side they 1347 01:08:06,719 --> 01:08:04,599 can't be you know they can't have an 1348 01:08:08,039 --> 01:08:06,729 aggressive attitude it was like they 1349 01:08:09,989 --> 01:08:08,049 arrived and they say what do you need 1350 01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:09,999 the from us what what can we do for you 1351 01:08:14,579 --> 01:08:11,680 can we bring you around can you do this 1352 01:08:17,339 --> 01:08:14,589 it was I mean I was pretty impressed by 1353 01:08:18,959 --> 01:08:17,349 it you show me the cards they were you 1354 01:08:21,209 --> 01:08:18,969 know from the Knights of Malta and did 1355 01:08:24,419 --> 01:08:21,219 you stop me do we know that what you're 1356 01:08:28,849 --> 01:08:24,429 doing if you want we can stand by you 1357 01:08:30,959 --> 01:08:28,859 and protect you from any problems now 1358 01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:30,969 because at the same time I thought the 1359 01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:32,319 wedding and didn't want me to do all 1360 01:08:39,209 --> 01:08:35,049 this so at one point I must have crossed 1361 01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:39,219 really the line right and they had to 1362 01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:39,849 lock me up 1363 01:08:49,890 --> 01:08:44,830 me up for before I don't know how long 1364 01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:49,900 maybe ten days couple weeks whatever and 1365 01:08:56,189 --> 01:08:54,400 at that point of course they injected me 1366 01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:56,199 they tortured me with all kinds of 1367 01:09:02,370 --> 01:08:59,920 things too because they they understood 1368 01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:02,380 what I was doing probably was really 1369 01:09:06,809 --> 01:09:04,719 really dangerous but then I managed to 1370 01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:06,819 get out the whole thing they got the 1371 01:09:12,660 --> 01:09:09,369 support of a Jewish old Jewish family 1372 01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:12,670 one of the oldest in Rome the sonne no 1373 01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:15,549 family that worked also for the Banda 1374 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:17,409 della Mae Jana was this famous gangster 1375 01:09:22,769 --> 01:09:21,489 group in Rome and they gave me their not 1376 01:09:24,539 --> 01:09:22,779 only their own protection but they gave 1377 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:24,549 me a place to live within 1378 01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:26,650 Jewish ghetto on the other side of the 1379 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:30,369 river interested in a beautiful place 1380 01:09:36,809 --> 01:09:33,369 with Jacuzzi everything it was a small 1381 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:36,819 place but it was cozy and it was writing 1382 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:39,130 sin in the center of Rome but at that 1383 01:09:43,740 --> 01:09:42,250 point I was within the Jewish area so I 1384 01:09:45,870 --> 01:09:43,750 don't know if that it was more 1385 01:09:48,059 --> 01:09:45,880 acceptable for them to place me that 1386 01:09:53,099 --> 01:09:48,069 because maybe by doing a Kabbalistic 1387 01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:53,109 magic and I don't know I got very much 1388 01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,170 studying and participating it to Easter 1389 01:09:59,939 --> 01:09:58,000 with the Jewish community and being very 1390 01:10:02,609 --> 01:09:59,949 close to them during that period also 1391 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:02,619 because it was really helpful for me 1392 01:10:07,470 --> 01:10:04,960 during my study of Kabbalah to be able 1393 01:10:11,970 --> 01:10:07,480 to interact with them ask them questions 1394 01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:11,980 and so on and so I went on a few more 1395 01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:14,710 months and when I was doing a specific 1396 01:10:19,890 --> 01:10:16,719 ritual always within the magical vibe my 1397 01:10:21,689 --> 01:10:19,900 mind imagine what crawling defines us 1398 01:10:24,419 --> 01:10:21,699 the crossing of the Abbess which is a 1399 01:10:25,950 --> 01:10:24,429 very very dangerous moment in which you 1400 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:25,960 can really become what truly defines 1401 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:27,730 that the babe of the abyss you can just 1402 01:10:34,129 --> 01:10:30,610 lose yourself mm-hmm often what what 1403 01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:34,139 happens and and then I had another 1404 01:10:40,740 --> 01:10:38,800 setback so eventually I completed the 1405 01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,750 magic of Abramelin but there were a 1406 01:10:47,790 --> 01:10:42,960 series of setbacks for a couple of years 1407 01:10:50,609 --> 01:10:47,800 so and at the end of it I received the 1408 01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:50,619 message which was very clear leave Rome 1409 01:10:58,049 --> 01:10:54,159 now go to London there you have the 1410 01:11:00,750 --> 01:10:58,059 protection and the what you're searching 1411 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:00,760 for and the Lions will protect you 1412 01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:03,730 I'm from the Lyon family the family of 1413 01:11:08,939 --> 01:11:05,980 this Queen Mother of course the temazcal 1414 01:11:11,879 --> 01:11:08,949 castle of Glamis in scotland I'm related 1415 01:11:14,069 --> 01:11:11,889 to the Queen I just saw that as a 1416 01:11:15,390 --> 01:11:14,079 message for me to get the heck out there 1417 01:11:19,950 --> 01:11:15,400 because it was becoming way too 1418 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:19,960 dangerous for me in Italy the 1993-1994 1419 01:11:25,470 --> 01:11:22,570 gave in to the fall of the first 1420 01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:25,480 republic in Italy so there was also a 1421 01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:27,940 lot of turmoil bombs exploding all over 1422 01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:30,369 the place with the Mafia threatening the 1423 01:11:37,759 --> 01:11:34,239 government the Mosconi was about to 1424 01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:37,769 enter politics and at the same time 1425 01:11:41,969 --> 01:11:40,030 there was all kinds of other things 1426 01:11:45,540 --> 01:11:41,979 happening the fall of the Soviet Union 1427 01:11:48,689 --> 01:11:45,550 meant that all the old alliances within 1428 01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:48,699 the New World Order were out were not 1429 01:11:53,009 --> 01:11:49,840 valid anymore 1430 01:11:55,020 --> 01:11:53,019 they were discussed in some way so 1431 01:11:56,850 --> 01:11:55,030 certain people even close to me like 1432 01:11:58,949 --> 01:11:56,860 Prince Ali didn't Maury Ali who brought 1433 01:12:01,259 --> 01:11:58,959 me within Freemasonry and was gassed by 1434 01:12:03,929 --> 01:12:01,269 Bill Clinton in 1992 or the White House 1435 01:12:05,069 --> 01:12:03,939 he was arrested a year later in need so 1436 01:12:09,390 --> 01:12:05,079 I mean there was things that were 1437 01:12:11,969 --> 01:12:09,400 happening that were of course a very 1438 01:12:15,089 --> 01:12:11,979 upsetting both for me and also for my 1439 01:12:16,620 --> 01:12:15,099 family knowing that I was getting maybe 1440 01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,630 involved with things that were a little 1441 01:12:21,419 --> 01:12:18,880 bit dangerous also at a political level 1442 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:21,429 because while I was doing all this I was 1443 01:12:27,649 --> 01:12:23,650 also involved with Freemasonry and then 1444 01:12:33,330 --> 01:12:27,659 I was operating on a different level 1445 01:12:36,779 --> 01:12:33,340 political not only so Terry and Leo let 1446 01:12:39,779 --> 01:12:36,789 me ask you this because as you went 1447 01:12:46,979 --> 01:12:39,789 through all of these transitions in your 1448 01:12:50,939 --> 01:12:46,989 life you had experienced et contact you 1449 01:12:54,779 --> 01:12:50,949 saw that the the possibility of a 1450 01:12:57,449 --> 01:12:54,789 parallel world of a Stargate of of a 1451 01:13:00,719 --> 01:12:57,459 portal and that life was certainly 1452 01:13:04,589 --> 01:13:00,729 different than what everybody else is 1453 01:13:06,659 --> 01:13:04,599 being taught when I did the abbeys thing 1454 01:13:09,959 --> 01:13:06,669 that was when I really got into my 1455 01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:09,969 second really strong et contact but it 1456 01:13:17,370 --> 01:13:12,900 was a much more of a darker contact and 1457 01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:17,380 as soon as the entity came through the 1458 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:21,369 door of this place which was as I said 1459 01:13:29,009 --> 01:13:24,489 in the middle of the Jewish ghetto chaos 1460 01:13:33,299 --> 01:13:29,019 erupted and I can tell you that it was 1461 01:13:36,779 --> 01:13:33,309 already even I mean I put on the TV and 1462 01:13:39,689 --> 01:13:36,789 on the news I see secret societies fret 1463 01:13:42,029 --> 01:13:39,699 of Satanist is threatening trust ever in 1464 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:42,039 the center of Rome with magical rituals 1465 01:13:47,159 --> 01:13:44,530 so there was something going on that 1466 01:13:50,009 --> 01:13:47,169 wasn't really cooled because I was 1467 01:13:51,610 --> 01:13:50,019 southern tree you know what I mean this 1468 01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:51,620 this thing was taking propose 1469 01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:54,320 that and then of course the police 1470 01:14:00,850 --> 01:13:58,010 arrives again I get arrested again there 1471 01:14:03,070 --> 01:14:00,860 is more trouble more problems but and I 1472 01:14:05,530 --> 01:14:03,080 get of course at that point after also 1473 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:05,540 leave the situation over that because at 1474 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:08,210 the same time they are arresting part of 1475 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:10,130 this Jewish family which was linked to 1476 01:14:17,530 --> 01:14:15,790 the street for me as I said the link to 1477 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:17,540 abandon Jana but they were also working 1478 01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:20,570 for the Mossad so there were also agents 1479 01:14:24,970 --> 01:14:23,120 of Israel so I was very close to these 1480 01:14:26,590 --> 01:14:24,980 agents and I could see also certain 1481 01:14:29,290 --> 01:14:26,600 things that were going on also there 1482 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:29,300 behind the scenes so in the end for me 1483 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:31,730 the better thing was to just leave go to 1484 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:35,090 London and in London that's when of 1485 01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:39,050 course I came into contact with the Ordo 1486 01:14:44,890 --> 01:14:41,840 Templi Orientis the english side of it 1487 01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:44,900 not the Italian side and with the series 1488 01:14:49,330 --> 01:14:47,510 of magicians and with the Freemasons I 1489 01:14:51,130 --> 01:14:49,340 joined the American Lodge of England at 1490 01:14:53,620 --> 01:14:51,140 that point to regularize my Masonic 1491 01:14:56,380 --> 01:14:53,630 position and many other things happen 1492 01:14:58,600 --> 01:14:56,390 but those connection with invisible 1493 01:15:01,780 --> 01:14:58,610 realm those alien connections happened 1494 01:15:04,660 --> 01:15:01,790 in Rome they will only be happen again 1495 01:15:08,020 --> 01:15:04,670 to a certain extent in Norway during my 1496 01:15:09,250 --> 01:15:08,030 time in Norway and when I was in obvious 1497 01:15:14,890 --> 01:15:09,260 right 1498 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:14,900 when we come back we're gonna we're 1499 01:15:18,910 --> 01:15:16,610 gonna jump forward a little bit we have 1500 01:15:21,070 --> 01:15:18,920 to go straight to 1909 we have to 1501 01:15:25,210 --> 01:15:21,080 discuss what happened there with with 1502 01:15:28,030 --> 01:15:25,220 Crowley and him opening up that portal 1503 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:28,040 and of course lamb and who lamb is 1504 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:31,970 because lamb this is what I find really 1505 01:15:37,630 --> 01:15:33,890 interesting about all of this 1506 01:15:42,010 --> 01:15:37,640 Leo is that unless you were interested 1507 01:15:45,010 --> 01:15:42,020 in Crowley and read about him you would 1508 01:15:48,340 --> 01:15:45,020 have never seen lamb you would he would 1509 01:15:53,020 --> 01:15:48,350 not know who lamb is or or what he looks 1510 01:15:56,890 --> 01:15:53,030 like but throughout there has been 1511 01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:56,900 contact apparently throughout the world 1512 01:16:04,430 --> 01:16:01,040 with lamb with the greys and but there's 1513 01:16:06,890 --> 01:16:04,440 a gap there that between 1909 1514 01:16:08,570 --> 01:16:06,900 and what ended up happening years later 1515 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:08,580 a couple of decades later with the greys 1516 01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:12,690 and now we go back and we look at lamb 1517 01:16:18,620 --> 01:16:15,920 and that is certainly the cover of 1518 01:16:21,650 --> 01:16:18,630 Whitley Strieber book communion for 1519 01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:21,660 instance right and it's it's a very 1520 01:16:27,170 --> 01:16:24,270 interesting turning point in history 1521 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:27,180 with what happened with Crowley in 1909 1522 01:16:32,180 --> 01:16:30,810 all the way through to CERN today so 1523 01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:32,190 we're gonna do that when we come back 1524 01:16:40,670 --> 01:16:37,490 absolutely 1525 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:40,680 oh is it let's do it our guest tonight 1526 01:16:46,910 --> 01:16:44,610 leo Sagami live from rome italy the new 1527 01:16:50,330 --> 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Brooks I fade to black because 1633 01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:37,140 this is fade to black 1634 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:39,280 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1635 01:21:45,330 --> 01:21:42,970 radio network and kgr a the global radio 1636 01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:45,340 alliance 1637 01:22:00,670 --> 01:21:57,040 [Music] 1638 01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:00,680 welcome back fade to black I am your 1639 01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:04,310 host in the church on the GameChanger 1640 01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:06,800 network in kg ra the planet our guest 1641 01:22:11,530 --> 01:22:09,070 tonight Leo Sagami live from Rome Italy 1642 01:22:14,590 --> 01:22:11,540 talking about his new book invisible 1643 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:14,600 master the puppeteers hidden power this 1644 01:22:23,470 --> 01:22:18,130 is all about ET and its influence on 1645 01:22:25,540 --> 01:22:23,480 those in power throughout history and as 1646 01:22:27,550 --> 01:22:25,550 promised we've got to get to one of the 1647 01:22:30,820 --> 01:22:27,560 most important sections of the book and 1648 01:22:34,660 --> 01:22:30,830 it is indeed Leo the theme throughout 1649 01:22:39,450 --> 01:22:34,670 the book which is the interdimensional 1650 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:39,460 portal wormhole aspect offworld 1651 01:22:45,550 --> 01:22:42,610 transport from one planet to another 1652 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:45,560 throughout history and and we're gonna 1653 01:22:50,830 --> 01:22:49,250 resolve everything through CERN but you 1654 01:22:52,780 --> 01:22:50,840 bring up one of the most important 1655 01:22:57,130 --> 01:22:52,790 points which is what happened in 1909 1656 01:23:01,210 --> 01:22:57,140 when Aleister Crowley opened up a portal 1657 01:23:03,370 --> 01:23:01,220 and lamb entered into the picture let's 1658 01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:03,380 talk about what happened in 1909 with 1659 01:23:11,290 --> 01:23:06,400 Aleister Crowley the stage is yours 1660 01:23:14,110 --> 01:23:11,300 well the magic you ever made in the 1661 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:14,120 image can unveil certain forces and 1662 01:23:22,420 --> 01:23:18,370 cruelly did exactly that by then 1663 01:23:25,150 --> 01:23:22,430 receiving meaning in a mediumship what 1664 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:25,160 he called the book of the law now he had 1665 01:23:33,940 --> 01:23:30,050 just tend to ignore this book and put it 1666 01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:33,950 aside he just want to abandon even the 1667 01:23:40,290 --> 01:23:37,040 existence of it at one point so he left 1668 01:23:44,110 --> 01:23:40,300 on the side this book until in 1909 he 1669 01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:44,120 desire he decides to he finds it again 1670 01:23:53,380 --> 01:23:49,450 in a way he rediscovered it as this 1671 01:23:55,930 --> 01:23:53,390 transmission from the god Horus to 1672 01:24:01,630 --> 01:23:55,940 himself for the establishment of some 1673 01:24:05,770 --> 01:24:01,640 kind of religion a new a new belief for 1674 01:24:08,370 --> 01:24:05,780 the loominatee so in 1909 though he goes 1675 01:24:14,049 --> 01:24:08,380 with this guy 1676 01:24:16,859 --> 01:24:14,059 Victor Neuberg - bossa the town which is 1677 01:24:19,890 --> 01:24:16,869 in Algeria 1678 01:24:24,549 --> 01:24:19,900 245 kilometres south of Algiers 1679 01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:24,559 because at that point he really thinks 1680 01:24:34,270 --> 01:24:29,689 that this book he has transcribed puts 1681 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:34,280 him right at the end of the end time in 1682 01:24:39,129 --> 01:24:35,570 the end time scenario in the book of 1683 01:24:43,929 --> 01:24:39,139 Revelation as one of the characters of 1684 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:43,939 it he he sees himself as the Beast 666 1685 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:51,130 he becomes kind of really linked to this 1686 01:24:57,669 --> 01:24:55,610 episode on him that he himself had since 1687 01:25:00,159 --> 01:24:57,679 a young age because apparently they used 1688 01:25:02,589 --> 01:25:00,169 to they used to call him already did 1689 01:25:07,330 --> 01:25:02,599 this from a very young age but anyway he 1690 01:25:13,179 --> 01:25:07,340 went with this new disciple his in the 1691 01:25:14,919 --> 01:25:13,189 desert because he wanted to evoke he 1692 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:14,929 want to open the gates of Hell just to 1693 01:25:18,009 --> 01:25:16,489 make it really synthetic for your 1694 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:18,019 business so we don't go through the 1695 01:25:23,770 --> 01:25:21,530 whole book but basically how he opens 1696 01:25:28,449 --> 01:25:23,780 the gates of Hell he opened them by 1697 01:25:30,549 --> 01:25:28,459 walking carranza one he opens he wants 1698 01:25:34,060 --> 01:25:30,559 to proceed to the call of the 10th earth 1699 01:25:36,759 --> 01:25:34,070 here called Zak's this from the 1700 01:25:40,029 --> 01:25:36,769 tradition that was of course established 1701 01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:40,039 by john d with with the kelly which 1702 01:25:44,890 --> 01:25:42,169 curly said he was even an incarnation of 1703 01:25:47,469 --> 01:25:44,900 and buddhist qur'an john curran zone 1704 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:47,479 known as free free free is the lord of 1705 01:25:56,290 --> 01:25:51,650 illusi nations one of the most feared in 1706 01:25:59,919 --> 01:25:56,300 existence and he wants to do this 1707 01:26:02,229 --> 01:25:59,929 because by doing this as i said he wants 1708 01:26:08,049 --> 01:26:02,239 to open the gates of the underworld he 1709 01:26:13,839 --> 01:26:08,059 wants to also get probably something 1710 01:26:16,179 --> 01:26:13,849 some vision of also of his own position 1711 01:26:18,879 --> 01:26:16,189 within this unfolding which is still 1712 01:26:20,209 --> 01:26:18,889 unfolding now I mean what cruelly did in 1713 01:26:25,069 --> 01:26:20,219 1909 1714 01:26:26,959 --> 01:26:25,079 the repercussions to this day and some 1715 01:26:30,109 --> 01:26:26,969 of your reason was a well who cares 1716 01:26:31,850 --> 01:26:30,119 about it no no my friend you might not 1717 01:26:34,279 --> 01:26:31,860 care about Aleister Crowley but you 1718 01:26:36,799 --> 01:26:34,289 might care about The Beat Generation the 1719 01:26:38,750 --> 01:26:36,809 EP generation the whole of the culture 1720 01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:38,760 you have in California is all of 1721 01:26:43,549 --> 01:26:40,880 Aleister Crowley's vision and voice 1722 01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:43,559 because you have been enslaved by his 1723 01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:45,360 magical operation in California the 1724 01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:49,110 moment in which Crowley indicated the 1725 01:26:57,979 --> 01:26:52,260 California to be the ideal place for his 1726 01:26:59,930 --> 01:26:57,989 tradition to be to be transmitted also 1727 01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:59,940 to the new generation so that what 1728 01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:01,440 happened with eventually the Ordo Templi 1729 01:27:07,299 --> 01:27:04,110 Orientis was reestablish in the 70s as a 1730 01:27:11,799 --> 01:27:07,309 Grand Lodge in California in Berkeley 1731 01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:11,809 and so with Witten Oberg 1732 01:27:19,399 --> 01:27:16,800 who assists Crowley who at this moment 1733 01:27:22,069 --> 01:27:19,409 is flattered perdurable that is 1734 01:27:24,890 --> 01:27:22,079 initiative named during this operation 1735 01:27:27,950 --> 01:27:24,900 of control possession basically is 1736 01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:27,960 opening this extra dimensional gates for 1737 01:27:33,919 --> 01:27:30,239 this Anthony's Atlas to come through and 1738 01:27:35,899 --> 01:27:33,929 then possess himself possess the person 1739 01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:35,909 that is with him that he's actually 1740 01:27:43,250 --> 01:27:38,400 sodomized in during the ritual so he 1741 01:27:46,729 --> 01:27:43,260 could actually through that act his 1742 01:27:49,250 --> 01:27:46,739 Quran zone ritual he can actually get 1743 01:27:53,330 --> 01:27:49,260 the gates of Hell open it I mean it is 1744 01:27:56,839 --> 01:27:53,340 something that of course is very dark he 1745 01:27:59,390 --> 01:27:56,849 assumes during the ritual various forms 1746 01:28:01,790 --> 01:27:59,400 and the guy who is with him would be 1747 01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:01,800 affected by it for several years to come 1748 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:04,800 he went name insane for noble because I 1749 01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:08,130 mean it was very strong what it was he 1750 01:28:14,930 --> 01:28:13,170 was trying to do and later on noble work 1751 01:28:16,969 --> 01:28:14,940 completely back off the rest a bit crawl 1752 01:28:19,790 --> 01:28:16,979 in 1914 so only a few years later 1753 01:28:21,950 --> 01:28:19,800 because he he really was still feeling 1754 01:28:24,799 --> 01:28:21,960 the dangers and the powers of this evil 1755 01:28:29,450 --> 01:28:24,809 that Crowley had summoned and after he 1756 01:28:31,489 --> 01:28:29,460 summons this this this this demons it 1757 01:28:32,590 --> 01:28:31,499 wasn't it was just the beginning of his 1758 01:28:35,050 --> 01:28:32,600 own 1759 01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:35,060 then continues in the United States so 1760 01:28:39,490 --> 01:28:37,520 Mary I mean when you say when you talk 1761 01:28:41,830 --> 01:28:39,500 about lamb you talk about something that 1762 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:41,840 he has put together in the United States 1763 01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:45,010 of America the elemental workings 1764 01:28:49,870 --> 01:28:47,810 continued we'll see and and the the 1765 01:28:52,810 --> 01:28:49,880 strange connections here with Crowley 1766 01:28:54,370 --> 01:28:52,820 with that and the OTO not only in 1767 01:28:58,330 --> 01:28:54,380 Berkeley but here in Southern California 1768 01:29:01,180 --> 01:28:58,340 in Pasadena which ended up drawing in 1769 01:29:03,190 --> 01:29:01,190 Jack Parsons and l ron Hubbard and the 1770 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:03,200 creation of the Jet Propulsion 1771 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:07,370 Laboratory our entire space program and 1772 01:29:17,410 --> 01:29:12,370 Jack Parsons was completely focused and 1773 01:29:19,900 --> 01:29:17,420 made the OTO and Crowley a part of his 1774 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:19,910 life and they were they were busy 1775 01:29:25,210 --> 01:29:22,010 opening up those same portals weren't 1776 01:29:29,770 --> 01:29:25,220 they well a new ones also 1777 01:29:32,260 --> 01:29:29,780 that's what yes yes I mean it is it's a 1778 01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:32,270 gradual operation here it seems like Ron 1779 01:29:36,850 --> 01:29:34,310 and his followers after following a 1780 01:29:39,460 --> 01:29:36,860 methodology which is directed by the 1781 01:29:42,010 --> 01:29:39,470 invisible masters I mean they are not 1782 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:42,020 just opening portals for the sake of it 1783 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:45,370 they are doing it in in a way that is 1784 01:29:52,660 --> 01:29:48,530 metal metallic so the elemental workings 1785 01:29:54,220 --> 01:29:52,670 instead take place in New York in 1917 1786 01:29:58,330 --> 01:29:54,230 and that's when we have the appearance 1787 01:30:00,280 --> 01:29:58,340 of land so the image that of course then 1788 01:30:05,550 --> 01:30:00,290 everybody nowadays identifies with the 1789 01:30:08,230 --> 01:30:05,560 common gray and this happened I mean 1790 01:30:10,780 --> 01:30:08,240 with the coolest drawing which he 1791 01:30:13,390 --> 01:30:10,790 included himself in an exhibition in 1792 01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:13,400 Greenwich Village in New York in 1919 1793 01:30:21,250 --> 01:30:17,360 but Crowley was not just drawing lamp 1794 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:21,260 Crowley was having sexual magic animals 1795 01:30:28,660 --> 01:30:24,170 channeling things right at that moment 1796 01:30:30,670 --> 01:30:28,670 and of course this image was also 1797 01:30:32,650 --> 01:30:30,680 published in the fans piece of Crowley's 1798 01:30:35,290 --> 01:30:32,660 commentary to barosky's the voice of the 1799 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:35,300 science because it's from blah Basque 1800 01:30:41,530 --> 01:30:37,370 Historical Society that as I said 1801 01:30:44,500 --> 01:30:41,540 earlier a lot of ethology comes out and 1802 01:30:46,330 --> 01:30:44,510 Springs out from the Asif II really is 1803 01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:46,340 connected with all this so then 1804 01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:48,170 and with all these secret societies that 1805 01:30:53,230 --> 01:30:51,110 were all born out of the Theosophical 1806 01:30:55,210 --> 01:30:53,240 setup and then we have the involvement 1807 01:30:59,890 --> 01:30:55,220 of course of the Jesuits in all this 1808 01:31:04,690 --> 01:30:59,900 because cruelly then he deposits the 1809 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:04,700 secret code to protect yourself from the 1810 01:31:10,750 --> 01:31:07,010 possession that you might encounter when 1811 01:31:13,630 --> 01:31:10,760 you meet with these aliens and he placed 1812 01:31:16,810 --> 01:31:13,640 the secret code in the book of the law 1813 01:31:20,050 --> 01:31:16,820 which she received in 1904 the secret 1814 01:31:23,470 --> 01:31:20,060 code becomes the secret cipher of the 1815 01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:23,480 UFO notes the way in which they can 1816 01:31:29,980 --> 01:31:26,090 protect themselves and interact with 1817 01:31:32,860 --> 01:31:29,990 these beings and at the same time there 1818 01:31:35,500 --> 01:31:32,870 is a current of Crowley's research which 1819 01:31:41,740 --> 01:31:35,510 then it's taken on by one of his 1820 01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:41,750 collaborators they came integrand who 1821 01:31:46,300 --> 01:31:44,450 establishes himself a lot of the OTO 1822 01:31:49,090 --> 01:31:46,310 that becomes the de fauna not EO and 1823 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:49,100 eventually the define Yin order which is 1824 01:31:58,590 --> 01:31:52,370 based on communication with the serials 1825 01:32:03,730 --> 01:31:58,600 so with a specific realm of beings that 1826 01:32:07,390 --> 01:32:03,740 are linked to the star Sirius so there 1827 01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:07,400 is also disconnection with a link out of 1828 01:32:14,590 --> 01:32:11,360 the lamb being also linked to Syria so 1829 01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:14,600 which as we know occurs many times this 1830 01:32:22,870 --> 01:32:18,110 link within secret societies sure and in 1831 01:32:24,700 --> 01:32:22,880 Kroll is the magical sack there is also 1832 01:32:27,940 --> 01:32:24,710 the link with Loch Ness and the 1833 01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:27,950 lankiness monster of course because he 1834 01:32:33,130 --> 01:32:30,170 was there doing the magic of a brahmand 1835 01:32:34,780 --> 01:32:33,140 image before he went down to Egypt and 1836 01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:34,790 that's where he did it he did it from 1837 01:32:39,550 --> 01:32:37,040 his house there on the shores of Loch 1838 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:39,560 Ness is how that now recently went on 1839 01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:42,770 fire yes it burned down yeah and now 1840 01:32:53,290 --> 01:32:47,210 let's back up let's let's not get let 1841 01:32:57,610 --> 01:32:53,300 this get away from us when the image of 1842 01:32:58,920 --> 01:32:57,620 lamb is now out there for everybody and 1843 01:33:01,080 --> 01:32:58,930 and now we look 1844 01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:01,090 and we make the connection to the grays 1845 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:05,440 but you mentioned UFO knots like 1846 01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:10,210 astronauts like fader knots UFO knots 1847 01:33:16,770 --> 01:33:13,210 and that is a term that you've got here 1848 01:33:18,300 --> 01:33:16,780 in the book explain that relieve just 1849 01:33:21,870 --> 01:33:18,310 said it a couple of times and I don't 1850 01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:21,880 think the audience understands yes first 1851 01:33:26,610 --> 01:33:23,520 of all I'm not the inventor of this term 1852 01:33:30,060 --> 01:33:26,620 but it was actually apologies which is 1853 01:33:33,060 --> 01:33:30,070 well known which is called Allen 1854 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:33,070 Greenfield yes to be also though the gun 1855 01:33:37,020 --> 01:33:35,050 yellow font of Egyptian Freemasonry a 1856 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:37,030 member of the Illuminati and for a long 1857 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:39,370 time also a bishop in the ecclesia 1858 01:33:43,500 --> 01:33:40,930 Gnostic at Oracle of the Ordo Templi 1859 01:33:45,630 --> 01:33:43,510 Orientis and involved deeply with all 1860 01:33:49,710 --> 01:33:45,640 the Templi Orientis for a long time 1861 01:33:51,870 --> 01:33:49,720 before he started his own branch they 1862 01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:51,880 actually even gave me a certificate of 1863 01:33:59,760 --> 01:33:55,650 appreciation in 1998 when he eventually 1864 01:34:02,400 --> 01:33:59,770 exited the orbit until ents but he 1865 01:34:04,140 --> 01:34:02,410 apparently had to go out of the time 1866 01:34:07,710 --> 01:34:04,150 period is he was forced to go there 1867 01:34:09,660 --> 01:34:07,720 that's because of his revealing the 1868 01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:09,670 secret cipher of the UFO nuts in 1869 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:12,070 connection with Aleister Crowley so the 1870 01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:14,050 you for that is not a term that I have 1871 01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:17,440 invented but I have picked up from 1872 01:34:22,350 --> 01:34:19,120 Greenfield because of course cream feed 1873 01:34:24,390 --> 01:34:22,360 being like me somebody was a very large 1874 01:34:27,540 --> 01:34:24,400 experience he actually been initiated in 1875 01:34:30,420 --> 01:34:27,550 the same Memphis Simeon branch naughty 1876 01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:30,430 aversion by Michael birch oh so I mean 1877 01:34:35,340 --> 01:34:32,050 we have other things in common with 1878 01:34:38,130 --> 01:34:35,350 Greenfield who is also an eminent figure 1879 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:38,140 in the UFO logic world no question no 1880 01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:40,330 question no core so I mean here we are 1881 01:34:46,140 --> 01:34:44,050 talking about somebody who maybe should 1882 01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:46,150 be taken a little bit more seriously in 1883 01:34:52,620 --> 01:34:49,930 his research that unfortunately is being 1884 01:34:55,470 --> 01:34:52,630 probably overshadowed by many had also 1885 01:34:56,810 --> 01:34:55,480 by the fact that he himself has never 1886 01:35:00,750 --> 01:34:56,820 really 1887 01:35:04,500 --> 01:35:00,760 denounced the negative sides of it so 1888 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:04,510 here I am saying I'm putting it as it is 1889 01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:06,370 then it's you know you can make your 1890 01:35:10,610 --> 01:35:08,170 mind up but there is definitely a link 1891 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:10,620 between even his own Masson 1892 01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:13,530 organization and Illuminati and it's not 1893 01:35:18,830 --> 01:35:16,530 like just a link that's made of a 1894 01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:18,840 conspiracy terrorist no no these are 1895 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:21,330 written documents that you can find that 1896 01:35:26,930 --> 01:35:24,570 I addressed in my book and so we are 1897 01:35:28,580 --> 01:35:26,940 talking here about a link that proves 1898 01:35:31,130 --> 01:35:28,590 once and for all that there is 1899 01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:31,140 disconnection and he himself also 1900 01:35:35,630 --> 01:35:33,690 research very much the secret cipher in 1901 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:35,640 connection with the you Fonuts present 1902 01:35:39,950 --> 01:35:37,290 in the book of the law of Aleister 1903 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:39,960 Crowley and for revealing that he was 1904 01:35:43,850 --> 01:35:41,970 probably a lot of people safe for 1905 01:35:45,470 --> 01:35:43,860 revealing that he was forced out of the 1906 01:35:48,500 --> 01:35:45,480 Ordo Templi Orientis so the whole 1907 01:35:50,630 --> 01:35:48,510 complaint is that is operating now from 1908 01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:50,640 California and to the world doesn't want 1909 01:35:58,690 --> 01:35:53,610 really people to go too deep in certain 1910 01:36:02,780 --> 01:35:58,700 things and I brought up also in my book 1911 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:02,790 the ritual of the crucified fraud which 1912 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:05,850 is also something very particular which 1913 01:36:11,660 --> 01:36:09,210 cruelly used to invoke an alien spirit 1914 01:36:15,230 --> 01:36:11,670 of a material nature and was also used 1915 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:15,240 by people like Parsons Harbor than all 1916 01:36:19,190 --> 01:36:17,370 these people when they were doing their 1917 01:36:22,730 --> 01:36:19,200 own opening of the portals which 1918 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:22,740 eventually will end up with what 1919 01:36:31,460 --> 01:36:27,570 happened in the ufology cord in 1947 but 1920 01:36:33,170 --> 01:36:31,470 so are you suggesting I know you do it 1921 01:36:36,260 --> 01:36:33,180 in the book but how much for the 1922 01:36:40,910 --> 01:36:36,270 audience here to address this was Lam a 1923 01:36:43,190 --> 01:36:40,920 UFO not absolutely it's what you call 1924 01:36:44,750 --> 01:36:43,200 UFO I mean am i calling the different 1925 01:36:46,940 --> 01:36:44,760 thing you know they might call it angels 1926 01:36:48,410 --> 01:36:46,950 and demons 2,000 years ago Nadi : aliens 1927 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:48,420 they call it maybe 2,000 years something 1928 01:36:51,620 --> 01:36:50,010 different mean we always call things did 1929 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:51,630 we they call it gods before they call 1930 01:36:55,250 --> 01:36:53,730 them angels right right right I mean so 1931 01:36:57,650 --> 01:36:55,260 I mean we don't really have a fixed term 1932 01:37:00,110 --> 01:36:57,660 always for the same thing but what I'm 1933 01:37:02,210 --> 01:37:00,120 trying to put him a book invisible 1934 01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:02,220 master as you have noticed yourself 1935 01:37:07,850 --> 01:37:04,530 because I see you are very carefully I 1936 01:37:12,650 --> 01:37:07,860 am trying to put the dots even in those 1937 01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:12,660 spaces that were never really visible to 1938 01:37:17,450 --> 01:37:15,360 the average researcher and that in the 1939 01:37:21,070 --> 01:37:17,460 end proved that oh this is all linked 1940 01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:21,080 it's totally because the moment in which 1941 01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:23,770 you have a guy like George 1942 01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:27,310 Lansky with the Royal Order of Tibet who 1943 01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:30,130 seems to see a large cigar-shaped 1944 01:37:39,770 --> 01:37:33,850 mothership on top of a mountain where 1945 01:37:42,750 --> 01:37:39,780 just that basically has a OTO Lodge 1946 01:37:44,580 --> 01:37:42,760 because it has the day and she had to 1947 01:37:48,650 --> 01:37:44,590 move out of Harlem so they had to go 1948 01:37:53,700 --> 01:37:48,660 down there now so I mean it's it's it 1949 01:37:56,580 --> 01:37:53,710 this can't be just you know something of 1950 01:38:01,700 --> 01:37:56,590 a coincidence always you know so when 1951 01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:01,710 you have but people like made delayed 1952 01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:05,110 which appeared in the famous we have 1953 01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:07,510 also this other thing that I mean the 1954 01:38:13,500 --> 01:38:10,960 famous FBI files that I also discuss in 1955 01:38:16,980 --> 01:38:13,510 my book you know with middle because 1956 01:38:19,770 --> 01:38:16,990 this FBI vault at one point everybody in 1957 01:38:21,090 --> 01:38:19,780 in the you forward so that there is some 1958 01:38:24,060 --> 01:38:21,100 documents that talk about 1959 01:38:26,850 --> 01:38:24,070 extradimensional beings using terms that 1960 01:38:30,570 --> 01:38:26,860 are typical of geography in his 1961 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:30,580 memorandums known as round robin which 1962 01:38:36,140 --> 01:38:33,610 was a publication of Medellin and the 1963 01:38:37,410 --> 01:38:36,150 borderland Sciences Research Foundation 1964 01:38:40,170 --> 01:38:37,420 okay 1965 01:38:41,820 --> 01:38:40,180 now not many people know that these 1966 01:38:44,610 --> 01:38:41,830 people though we're also linked to 1967 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:44,620 fracture a shot Medellin to flatter a 1968 01:38:50,610 --> 01:38:47,170 shot who itself was the disciple of 1969 01:38:53,090 --> 01:38:50,620 Aleister Crowley the fact the midlane 1970 01:38:57,090 --> 01:38:53,100 writes on the day of the rose will X 1971 01:38:59,340 --> 01:38:57,100 incident a very detailed neither 1972 01:39:02,040 --> 01:38:59,350 memorandum addressed to scientists and 1973 01:39:05,010 --> 01:39:02,050 military authorities explaining them 1974 01:39:07,500 --> 01:39:05,020 exactly what these entities are and and 1975 01:39:09,450 --> 01:39:07,510 you know but in a very expect for way he 1976 01:39:12,030 --> 01:39:09,460 addresses them but it says also that the 1977 01:39:13,860 --> 01:39:12,040 very dangerous and that we don't know 1978 01:39:17,130 --> 01:39:13,870 they're doing here in this plane I mean 1979 01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:17,140 are they invading us and so the Roswell 1980 01:39:24,590 --> 01:39:22,270 accident is indeed something that is 1981 01:39:27,870 --> 01:39:24,600 connected to a large number of sightings 1982 01:39:29,790 --> 01:39:27,880 across the world but right in the period 1983 01:39:33,900 --> 01:39:29,800 of time there there had been a lot of 1984 01:39:37,140 --> 01:39:33,910 akut activity because the infamous 1985 01:39:39,090 --> 01:39:37,150 problem working of persons inhabit had 1986 01:39:40,770 --> 01:39:39,100 completed the first phase just before 1987 01:39:46,050 --> 01:39:40,780 their actual accident that's what they 1988 01:39:48,510 --> 01:39:46,060 talk about also an invisible master man 1989 01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:48,520 it's such an amazing point in the book 1990 01:39:53,729 --> 01:39:52,030 too as well and I was reading through 1991 01:39:55,290 --> 01:39:53,739 that earlier today let's get back to 1992 01:39:59,820 --> 01:39:55,300 that in a second I want to get back to 1993 01:40:04,200 --> 01:39:59,830 lamb Crowley and lamb throughout history 1994 01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:04,210 by the way certainly 1909 and 1917 and 1995 01:40:08,310 --> 01:40:06,880 lamb is published in the inn and 1996 01:40:10,340 --> 01:40:08,320 Crowley's book and he's got the 1997 01:40:21,390 --> 01:40:10,350 illustration there but Crowley 1998 01:40:23,820 --> 01:40:21,400 identified lamb as a teacher to all 1999 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:23,830 these people right right my mistake but 2000 01:40:28,919 --> 01:40:27,370 Blavatsky's book but it was his own of 2001 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:28,929 course you know with his own 2002 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:32,250 introduction his own image his drawing 2003 01:40:41,580 --> 01:40:35,770 it's it's it's Crowley's drawing of lamb 2004 01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:41,590 that is that is published but but that's 2005 01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:44,530 right and I described them also in my 2006 01:40:49,919 --> 01:40:46,449 book so I mean she's also in contact 2007 01:40:54,570 --> 01:40:49,929 with this alien and she makes clear and 2008 01:40:59,250 --> 01:40:54,580 and and and he is described as a teacher 2009 01:41:06,000 --> 01:40:59,260 the way the path right and and and could 2010 01:41:09,140 --> 01:41:06,010 it be that lamb or his his his relatives 2011 01:41:12,689 --> 01:41:09,150 if you will have been instructing 2012 01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:12,699 leaders throughout history since the 2013 01:41:17,340 --> 01:41:15,040 very beginning and that's where a lot of 2014 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:17,350 this knowledge has come from from the 2015 01:41:25,950 --> 01:41:21,090 heavens from from ET from lamb 2016 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:25,960 well in fact I also connect all this to 2017 01:41:34,110 --> 01:41:29,890 ah could not dismiss you know drill and 2018 01:41:37,020 --> 01:41:34,120 this brings us directly to from brown it 2019 01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:37,030 brings us directly to also another side 2020 01:41:44,010 --> 01:41:41,679 of what became NASA so I mean NASA seems 2021 01:41:47,490 --> 01:41:44,020 to be pretty much awkward all the way 2022 01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:47,500 here right with with with with with 2023 01:41:52,890 --> 01:41:49,720 people who 2024 01:41:55,500 --> 01:41:52,900 who have unveiled certain secrets also 2025 01:41:58,350 --> 01:41:55,510 about aqua Nazis and the existence of 2026 01:42:00,030 --> 01:41:58,360 the various society which which of 2027 01:42:05,820 --> 01:42:00,040 course was acknowledged for the first 2028 01:42:08,940 --> 01:42:05,830 time by by Lewis Bobo in the morning of 2029 01:42:11,610 --> 01:42:08,950 the magician with Jack a badger and even 2030 01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:11,620 before that Monsieur googe's but the 2031 01:42:15,780 --> 01:42:13,690 fact is that this brilliant society was 2032 01:42:18,150 --> 01:42:15,790 made of mediums that transmitted these 2033 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:18,160 technologies to the Nazis to build the 2034 01:42:24,060 --> 01:42:21,250 ships and okay you can go and make 2035 01:42:25,980 --> 01:42:24,070 documentaries about it about this 2036 01:42:29,220 --> 01:42:25,990 connection but nobody has really focus 2037 01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:29,230 on the awkward meaning of all this so I 2038 01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:32,080 think that in the future with my book I 2039 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:34,570 want to stimulate a discussion which 2040 01:42:41,010 --> 01:42:37,690 really brings certain topics more in the 2041 01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:41,020 out words to detect more seriously and 2042 01:42:46,590 --> 01:42:44,170 also to be studied by specialists that 2043 01:42:49,020 --> 01:42:46,600 can finally maybe access also certain 2044 01:42:53,490 --> 01:42:49,030 archives so we can have even more deep 2045 01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:53,500 knowledge about this but definitely this 2046 01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:55,690 mediumship happened with methods of 2047 01:43:00,210 --> 01:42:57,520 concentrations that were probably based 2048 01:43:03,750 --> 01:43:00,220 on ayaats allah Yola spiritual exercises 2049 01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:03,760 which is the basis of spirituality in 2050 01:43:09,390 --> 01:43:06,730 the Jesuits which are now in charge of 2051 01:43:14,610 --> 01:43:09,400 course of the Vatican astronomical 2052 01:43:20,100 --> 01:43:14,620 sector and of all the big telescopes do 2053 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:20,110 you think in Freemasonry or Illuminati 2054 01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:22,330 we know about the OTO of course by going 2055 01:43:28,650 --> 01:43:25,600 back Rosicrucians even further back in 2056 01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:28,660 some of these secret societies that they 2057 01:43:33,060 --> 01:43:31,510 have images that are similar to lamb 2058 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:33,070 that there are stuff that hasn't been 2059 01:43:39,810 --> 01:43:35,650 revealed yet but that but that it is 2060 01:43:41,460 --> 01:43:39,820 been a part of all of them I think that 2061 01:43:44,730 --> 01:43:41,470 we have to at this point 2062 01:43:49,670 --> 01:43:44,740 took about a book that was mentioned 2063 01:43:52,440 --> 01:43:49,680 only once by a guy who is George Adamski 2064 01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:52,450 this book is a French book all they come 2065 01:43:59,400 --> 01:43:55,090 to gobble e now we're going really back 2066 01:44:01,710 --> 01:43:59,410 to to something that it's very 2067 01:44:03,359 --> 01:44:01,720 interesting for me because it's really 2068 01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:03,369 we are talking earlier 2069 01:44:07,379 --> 01:44:05,290 we mentioned the Greenfield and 2070 01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:07,389 basically he of course talks about the 2071 01:44:12,660 --> 01:44:09,570 UFO notes and we can talk a lot about 2072 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:12,670 the sexuality of the openers in their 2073 01:44:16,589 --> 01:44:14,650 interaction also with sexual fluids 2074 01:44:19,950 --> 01:44:16,599 given to these aliens and so on and and 2075 01:44:22,620 --> 01:44:19,960 of course this has been described very 2076 01:44:24,750 --> 01:44:22,630 well also by by green tea but this is 2077 01:44:28,770 --> 01:44:24,760 stuff that was described hundreds of 2078 01:44:30,540 --> 01:44:28,780 years ago in 1717 1670 a curious booklet 2079 01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:30,550 appeared in Paris and either contactable 2080 01:44:36,990 --> 01:44:34,330 II and the author who was later killed 2081 01:44:38,939 --> 01:44:37,000 in mysterious circumstances who was a 2082 01:44:42,300 --> 01:44:38,949 preacher and a habit shared among 2083 01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:42,310 Montfaucon the villas talks in so much 2084 01:44:46,620 --> 01:44:44,320 details about interaction with this 2085 01:44:49,729 --> 01:44:46,630 entities even making children with these 2086 01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:49,739 identities and and and there is a hole 2087 01:44:55,050 --> 01:44:52,719 of course they describe the cells of the 2088 01:44:58,169 --> 01:44:55,060 air own deeds of water gnomes of the air 2089 01:45:00,450 --> 01:44:58,179 salamanders of fire but that was the way 2090 01:45:02,459 --> 01:45:00,460 they were calling it at that in those 2091 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:02,469 days in that kind that's why it's very 2092 01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:08,170 important that that this book then is 2093 01:45:13,470 --> 01:45:10,719 mentioned by George Adamski because I 2094 01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:13,480 think that makes that a real link that 2095 01:45:18,149 --> 01:45:16,330 is very tangible but they conduct I 2096 01:45:21,359 --> 01:45:18,159 believe is also Buddha is very important 2097 01:45:24,149 --> 01:45:21,369 for the Rosicrucians so for a part the 2098 01:45:28,109 --> 01:45:24,159 central to the Western initiatic system 2099 01:45:31,379 --> 01:45:28,119 into Freemasonry we have the citation of 2100 01:45:35,180 --> 01:45:31,389 contig amble gab Ali bhai said it were 2101 01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:35,190 written so we go to somebody who is 2102 01:45:42,359 --> 01:45:38,050 regards very important in the realm of 2103 01:45:48,330 --> 01:45:42,369 secret societies and with his strange 2104 01:45:51,500 --> 01:45:48,340 novels and only so we have a series of 2105 01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:51,510 stories in this county gab Ali which are 2106 01:45:58,830 --> 01:45:54,639 definitely what we find nowadays in 2107 01:46:01,020 --> 01:45:58,840 today's abduction cases and it's very 2108 01:46:03,060 --> 01:46:01,030 very interesting for people to finally 2109 01:46:05,399 --> 01:46:03,070 be able to relate also to stuff that 2110 01:46:07,859 --> 01:46:05,409 comes from the past because with the 2111 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:07,869 with this book account the kabbalah 2112 01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:09,010 legally 2113 01:46:16,020 --> 01:46:12,070 we can finally see that this seeker 2114 01:46:17,490 --> 01:46:16,030 science of how to interact also sexually 2115 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:17,500 with these entities 2116 01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:20,890 was known for a long long time let's 2117 01:46:27,810 --> 01:46:24,250 take a break right here this is getting 2118 01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:27,820 really interesting but we have to when 2119 01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:30,070 we I want to stay on the subject but we 2120 01:46:34,770 --> 01:46:32,080 can't Leo because we've got to talk 2121 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:34,780 about CERN and we're almost out of time 2122 01:46:41,820 --> 01:46:38,170 so welcome back we've got to get to it 2123 01:46:43,940 --> 01:46:41,830 it is one of something that we need to 2124 01:46:46,440 --> 01:46:43,950 really open up our eyes about and 2125 01:46:49,020 --> 01:46:46,450 understand truly what's going on there 2126 01:46:51,330 --> 01:46:49,030 on the border of Switzerland and France 2127 01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:51,340 with CERN and we're gonna do that when 2128 01:46:56,580 --> 01:46:53,710 we come back our 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paranormal radio app free in 2212 01:51:20,830 --> 01:51:10,000 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 2213 01:51:25,620 --> 01:51:20,840 born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ 2214 01:51:39,050 --> 01:51:37,040 [Music] 2215 01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:39,060 welcome back painted black on the old 2216 01:51:44,990 --> 01:51:40,800 semi Church I guess tonight Leo's egami 2217 01:51:47,860 --> 01:51:45,000 live from Rome Italy the book invisible 2218 01:51:53,060 --> 01:51:47,870 master the puppeteers hidden power and 2219 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:53,070 probably Leo probably two or three years 2220 01:51:57,500 --> 01:51:55,650 ago I've got to think about this as 2221 01:52:01,940 --> 01:51:57,510 probably I might have been longer than 2222 01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:01,950 that I started to speak loudly about 2223 01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:04,770 CERN and what was going on out there and 2224 01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:07,440 the fact that I understand what 2225 01:52:11,870 --> 01:52:09,810 experiments are and testing and new 2226 01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:11,880 frontiers and and things that's what 2227 01:52:20,060 --> 01:52:14,690 you're doing but out there it's CERN 2228 01:52:22,820 --> 01:52:20,070 they are truly experimenting with things 2229 01:52:26,210 --> 01:52:22,830 that they do not understand they don't 2230 01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:26,220 they simply don't understand it and the 2231 01:52:32,540 --> 01:52:28,410 possibilities of something really going 2232 01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:32,550 wrong there are very very real and I had 2233 01:52:38,780 --> 01:52:37,050 suggested back then that there's the 2234 01:52:41,060 --> 01:52:38,790 possibility of breaking through to a 2235 01:52:43,970 --> 01:52:41,070 parallel world or opening up a portal 2236 01:52:48,380 --> 01:52:43,980 and and allowing things to enter into 2237 01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:48,390 our world that that we may not want here 2238 01:52:55,070 --> 01:52:52,010 or that they don't understand the 2239 01:52:58,760 --> 01:52:55,080 implications and the dangers of doing 2240 01:53:01,910 --> 01:52:58,770 these kinds of experiments but that 2241 01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:01,920 possibility is now real and you speak 2242 01:53:08,570 --> 01:53:05,010 about this in in the book what what are 2243 01:53:13,210 --> 01:53:08,580 the dangers of opening up these portals 2244 01:53:17,420 --> 01:53:13,220 with CERN we have talked in the last 2245 01:53:19,250 --> 01:53:17,430 couple of hours of the fact that there 2246 01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:19,260 has been a tent by aqua tease to open 2247 01:53:25,250 --> 01:53:22,320 portals for the last hundred years and 2248 01:53:27,590 --> 01:53:25,260 now instead there is an attempt that is 2249 01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:27,600 not religious an oculist attempt at is 2250 01:53:33,890 --> 01:53:30,480 also a scientific attempt using means 2251 01:53:35,480 --> 01:53:33,900 that of course have taken their 2252 01:53:36,860 --> 01:53:35,490 inspiration from the invisible world 2253 01:53:38,540 --> 01:53:36,870 because the scientist of course I've 2254 01:53:40,820 --> 01:53:38,550 received the knowledge from somewhere to 2255 01:53:42,830 --> 01:53:40,830 build these machines in order to then 2256 01:53:45,590 --> 01:53:42,840 create this microscopic black holes they 2257 01:53:48,380 --> 01:53:45,600 didn't just build them out of nowhere we 2258 01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:48,390 know that science is always inspired and 2259 01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:50,730 who aspires it that's the thing 2260 01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:53,010 so it seems like we are helping to 2261 01:53:59,930 --> 01:53:55,530 facilitate a possible alien invasion by 2262 01:54:02,090 --> 01:53:59,940 by doing what we're doing and it was 2263 01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:02,100 quite disturbed because in a couple 2264 01:54:06,860 --> 01:54:04,770 years ago to see that human sacrifice 2265 01:54:08,690 --> 01:54:06,870 staged in front of Geneva and if they 2266 01:54:10,460 --> 01:54:08,700 said it was a mockery if they said it 2267 01:54:13,190 --> 01:54:10,470 was just a group of scientists having a 2268 01:54:15,770 --> 01:54:13,200 laugh you don't have a laugh in front of 2269 01:54:19,490 --> 01:54:15,780 the statue of Shiva in front of the 2270 01:54:22,810 --> 01:54:19,500 chair and then say it was a prank just 2271 01:54:26,420 --> 01:54:22,820 because the video in some way has leaked 2272 01:54:30,140 --> 01:54:26,430 it seems to me that there is a lot more 2273 01:54:34,700 --> 01:54:30,150 to it and that the chair is assuming 2274 01:54:37,910 --> 01:54:34,710 instead the role of dig into the abyss 2275 01:54:40,370 --> 01:54:37,920 enough so they can bring out the biggest 2276 01:54:42,350 --> 01:54:40,380 of legions and the biggest of demons 2277 01:54:45,260 --> 01:54:42,360 basically they're delaying into universe 2278 01:54:47,810 --> 01:54:45,270 some squadrons like I called earlier 2279 01:54:50,150 --> 01:54:47,820 during my magic of a burning well 2280 01:54:52,910 --> 01:54:50,160 encountered in a magical growling where 2281 01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:52,920 squadrons of demons were organized and 2282 01:54:58,190 --> 01:54:55,260 very methodical in their military 2283 01:55:02,300 --> 01:54:58,200 approach and so we are talking here 2284 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:02,310 about aliens that are demonic that of 2285 01:55:09,890 --> 01:55:06,570 course want to invade our realm and that 2286 01:55:12,260 --> 01:55:09,900 was also what made Alain what we were 2287 01:55:14,570 --> 01:55:12,270 talking earlier on also in regards to 2288 01:55:18,020 --> 01:55:14,580 that communication that was made to the 2289 01:55:20,660 --> 01:55:18,030 FBI the famous memorandum it it kind of 2290 01:55:23,479 --> 01:55:20,670 links also with the same worries that 2291 01:55:27,290 --> 01:55:23,489 made Alain was communicating with his 2292 01:55:29,810 --> 01:55:27,300 associates also and so the mission is 2293 01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:29,820 peaceful but the visitors they 2294 01:55:36,620 --> 01:55:33,090 contemplate setting on this plane okay 2295 01:55:39,620 --> 01:55:36,630 can we believe that we do we have to 2296 01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:39,630 believe that I mean especially if if I 2297 01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,520 gotta crawl he told me that the mission 2298 01:55:46,490 --> 01:55:43,440 was peaceful I was just I would not 2299 01:55:50,030 --> 01:55:46,500 believe him one little bit Jimmy or any 2300 01:55:54,260 --> 01:55:50,040 of the trophical of awkward Illuminati 2301 01:55:56,630 --> 01:55:54,270 that have been involved in connecting 2302 01:55:58,250 --> 01:55:56,640 with these entities often they also 2303 01:56:00,620 --> 01:55:58,260 received their lies and their 2304 01:56:03,470 --> 01:56:00,630 manipulation schemes waited because they 2305 01:56:05,179 --> 01:56:03,480 become part of that manipulation and so 2306 01:56:09,049 --> 01:56:05,189 they can't be by 2307 01:56:12,290 --> 01:56:09,059 and so chairman assumes this very 2308 01:56:14,810 --> 01:56:12,300 disturbing role because it's not just a 2309 01:56:17,299 --> 01:56:14,820 significant endeavor it's also not court 2310 01:56:19,250 --> 01:56:17,309 endeavor and we have seen will be the as 2311 01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:19,260 this being this very strange cloud 2312 01:56:24,529 --> 01:56:21,570 formation after the experiment of the 2313 01:56:26,629 --> 01:56:24,539 Large Hadron Collider on the 24th of 2314 01:56:29,149 --> 01:56:26,639 June 2016 2315 01:56:31,159 --> 01:56:29,159 I was the the feast of st. John the 2316 01:56:34,339 --> 01:56:31,169 Baptist and a key moment in the Masonic 2317 01:56:39,020 --> 01:56:34,349 year but also the international flying 2318 01:56:43,339 --> 01:56:39,030 sauces that was that was the day that 2319 01:56:45,529 --> 01:56:43,349 was the day nineteen forty you know I go 2320 01:56:48,469 --> 01:56:45,539 like an investigative and I put the door 2321 01:56:50,929 --> 01:56:48,479 swung by one you know I put in also my 2322 01:56:52,489 --> 01:56:50,939 own experiences because I can see that 2323 01:56:54,049 --> 01:56:52,499 things are in a certain way and other 2324 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:54,059 people maybe can't see them so I hope 2325 01:56:58,969 --> 01:56:55,530 that putting together these dots will 2326 01:57:03,169 --> 01:56:58,979 enlighten many more people to come what 2327 01:57:05,119 --> 01:57:03,179 about the the portals that you know 2328 01:57:07,699 --> 01:57:05,129 you've got Jack Parsons dealing with 2329 01:57:10,969 --> 01:57:07,709 here in Southern California 2330 01:57:15,770 --> 01:57:10,979 of course what Crowley had done to as 2331 01:57:18,459 --> 01:57:15,780 well but after that after 1947 certainly 2332 01:57:22,069 --> 01:57:18,469 you have what happened up in in 2333 01:57:25,879 --> 01:57:22,079 Washington but we have Roswell and then 2334 01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:25,889 everything there was a great the road 2335 01:57:33,739 --> 01:57:30,320 siding in Phoenix also in July of 1947 2336 01:57:37,100 --> 01:57:33,749 at the same time as Roswell that was and 2337 01:57:39,649 --> 01:57:37,110 then and the wave of UFO activity that 2338 01:57:43,129 --> 01:57:39,659 happened all around the world and here 2339 01:57:46,790 --> 01:57:43,139 in the United States did is all of this 2340 01:57:48,649 --> 01:57:46,800 connected to portal activity absolutely 2341 01:57:51,139 --> 01:57:48,659 I mean while we see the man's just 2342 01:57:53,629 --> 01:57:51,149 activities that a sporadic or they are 2343 01:57:55,699 --> 01:57:53,639 just out of the blue aquata stand 2344 01:57:58,250 --> 01:57:55,709 members of civil societies who have been 2345 01:58:00,649 --> 01:57:58,260 working with these actively with these 2346 01:58:02,330 --> 01:58:00,659 entities they perceive them inside in a 2347 01:58:05,779 --> 01:58:02,340 completely different way because they 2348 01:58:08,689 --> 01:58:05,789 know that every action by them has a 2349 01:58:10,369 --> 01:58:08,699 then another action by day by the others 2350 01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:10,379 by the ones they are trying to 2351 01:58:14,599 --> 01:58:11,760 communicate with the were the ones they 2352 01:58:17,569 --> 01:58:14,609 are engaging with actively because they 2353 01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:17,579 are part of this invasion in a way this 2354 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:18,330 omission 2355 01:58:24,530 --> 01:58:20,610 that I described in the book also as the 2356 01:58:27,590 --> 01:58:24,540 full of the wall around the the it's a 2357 01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:27,600 dimensional wall that is slightly it's 2358 01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:30,810 corroding it's getting consumed and so 2359 01:58:35,690 --> 01:58:32,490 these entities more and more can come 2360 01:58:38,150 --> 01:58:35,700 into it into our dimension into a 2361 01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:38,160 reality and take control of it because 2362 01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:41,490 it was also predicted by many of the 2363 01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:45,690 religions of it this will happen demons 2364 01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:47,970 will completely invade the realm and 2365 01:58:52,910 --> 01:58:49,290 then at that point they will be the 2366 01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:52,920 reign of the Antichrist Satan in the 2367 01:58:57,260 --> 01:58:55,770 whole show I mean even more manifest and 2368 01:58:59,150 --> 01:58:57,270 I think that is happening in the age of 2369 01:59:00,800 --> 01:58:59,160 the internet very clearly I didn't I 2370 01:59:04,010 --> 01:59:00,810 don't have the time to look it up in the 2371 01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:04,020 book but you what is that wall called in 2372 01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:08,730 the Quran well it has also yeah it has a 2373 01:59:16,540 --> 01:59:12,960 specific name by now it it I don't have 2374 01:59:21,260 --> 01:59:16,550 it I don't know no but it was actually 2375 01:59:23,870 --> 01:59:21,270 reneging on who was a freemason and yes 2376 01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:23,880 but then became a Muslim and is regarded 2377 01:59:31,670 --> 01:59:27,330 very one of the esoteric most important 2378 01:59:35,030 --> 01:59:31,680 authors of last century he he was 2379 01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:35,040 talking about it as this wall was 2380 01:59:41,390 --> 01:59:37,410 blocking gog and magog from coming 2381 01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:41,400 through so right it's it's it's it's 2382 01:59:47,300 --> 01:59:44,370 it's of course a wall that it was 2383 01:59:52,460 --> 01:59:47,310 protecting us from something now this 2384 01:59:55,610 --> 01:59:52,470 war is coming down and and we are of 2385 01:59:58,670 --> 01:59:55,620 course in front of more and more in 2386 02:00:00,950 --> 01:59:58,680 front of an enemy of this astral force 2387 02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:00,960 that is becoming no more present every 2388 02:00:06,940 --> 02:00:02,970 day also because they interact through 2389 02:00:09,500 --> 02:00:06,950 the internet the internet and the 2390 02:00:13,570 --> 02:00:09,510 computers and all this technology has 2391 02:00:18,140 --> 02:00:13,580 itself a purpose for you know 2392 02:00:21,130 --> 02:00:18,150 imprisoning mankind it is CERN punching 2393 02:00:24,500 --> 02:00:21,140 a hole in that wall is that what is 2394 02:00:26,900 --> 02:00:24,510 punching a hole in that wall and trying 2395 02:00:29,300 --> 02:00:26,910 to punch it more and more so they can 2396 02:00:32,180 --> 02:00:29,310 get a bigger hole began after let the 2397 02:00:35,270 --> 02:00:32,190 day be the biggest of 2398 02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:35,280 monic forces through that can at that 2399 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:37,890 point ultimately take complete control I 2400 02:00:42,770 --> 02:00:41,010 mean the day ritual that was done it 2401 02:00:45,979 --> 02:00:42,780 wasn't a mockery but also it's very 2402 02:00:50,140 --> 02:00:45,989 important to to also maybe talk about 2403 02:00:54,439 --> 02:00:50,150 that statue that is in front of chair 2404 02:00:57,020 --> 02:00:54,449 that statue that is entitled the dance 2405 02:01:02,390 --> 02:00:57,030 of Shiva now this statue which is in 2406 02:01:06,550 --> 02:01:02,400 front of it that of course is in front 2407 02:01:11,990 --> 02:01:06,560 of Sharon but has also a link to a book 2408 02:01:14,270 --> 02:01:12,000 by frig off Capra which of course is one 2409 02:01:17,630 --> 02:01:14,280 very important author within the new age 2410 02:01:19,610 --> 02:01:17,640 and the Shiva's cosmic dance is a 2411 02:01:22,250 --> 02:01:19,620 central metaphor in his own book The Tao 2412 02:01:26,689 --> 02:01:22,260 physics which was a groundbreaking book 2413 02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:26,699 for the new-age community so this there 2414 02:01:31,010 --> 02:01:28,890 is a special plaque actually next to 2415 02:01:32,930 --> 02:01:31,020 this Shiva statue a chant that explains 2416 02:01:37,100 --> 02:01:32,940 in fact the significance of the matter 2417 02:01:40,430 --> 02:01:37,110 of Shiva cosmic dance and so we are here 2418 02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:40,440 in front of a perception that we are 2419 02:01:46,790 --> 02:01:44,610 also at the end of a period the total 2420 02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:46,800 reneging on talked about which is the 2421 02:01:53,420 --> 02:01:49,410 descending phase of the Kali Yuga 2422 02:01:57,740 --> 02:01:53,430 it's at that time of course a dark time 2423 02:02:00,920 --> 02:01:57,750 in which they are trying of course to 2424 02:02:02,630 --> 02:02:00,930 bring something through because they 2425 02:02:05,870 --> 02:02:02,640 want to they know that this is a multi 2426 02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:05,880 universe Jamie they want to not only 2427 02:02:10,370 --> 02:02:07,890 prove it they want to become engaged in 2428 02:02:12,260 --> 02:02:10,380 it the problem here is that they're not 2429 02:02:14,689 --> 02:02:12,270 really revealing the truth to the masses 2430 02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:14,699 they're not really making us participate 2431 02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:16,410 to their experiments and I find that 2432 02:02:22,910 --> 02:02:19,650 very upsetting because you know we 2433 02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:22,920 should be part of it as mankind we 2434 02:02:29,290 --> 02:02:25,410 should know what's going on in Chad now 2435 02:02:32,060 --> 02:02:29,300 the the Large Hadron Collider at CERN 2436 02:02:32,510 --> 02:02:32,070 isn't the only Collider on this planet 2437 02:02:35,959 --> 02:02:32,520 either 2438 02:02:39,830 --> 02:02:35,969 there are colliders in Russia there's a 2439 02:02:41,990 --> 02:02:39,840 few here in the United States different 2440 02:02:45,180 --> 02:02:42,000 countries have them China has one I 2441 02:02:48,330 --> 02:02:45,190 think there's one in Spain too as well 2442 02:02:51,630 --> 02:02:48,340 and we are using them obviously to 2443 02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:51,640 experiment attorneys that is also built 2444 02:02:57,810 --> 02:02:54,730 on a specific ground that is built in a 2445 02:03:00,990 --> 02:02:57,820 specific territory that has a long 2446 02:03:04,350 --> 02:03:01,000 tradition connected to ancient pagan 2447 02:03:06,959 --> 02:03:04,360 cults and and so it's not just built out 2448 02:03:08,939 --> 02:03:06,969 of nowhere in the middle of nowhere it's 2449 02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:08,949 built in a specific area which itself 2450 02:03:14,430 --> 02:03:11,170 has already a different kind of power 2451 02:03:16,979 --> 02:03:14,440 between it's on the border it's actually 2452 02:03:20,430 --> 02:03:16,989 it's like half in France right it's it's 2453 02:03:23,700 --> 02:03:20,440 20 miles across so it's it's half in 2454 02:03:26,610 --> 02:03:23,710 France half in Switzerland right it's 2455 02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:26,620 very big I I personally have never 2456 02:03:32,370 --> 02:03:29,650 really visited the China so I've been 2457 02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:32,380 many many times to Switzerland but what 2458 02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:34,239 they told me is that it's Underground 2459 02:03:40,020 --> 02:03:36,370 and it's very it's developed all 2460 02:03:43,530 --> 02:03:40,030 underground so we can't really see where 2461 02:03:44,939 --> 02:03:43,540 were journeys because it's it's all over 2462 02:03:47,610 --> 02:03:44,949 the place but it's underground so you 2463 02:03:50,729 --> 02:03:47,620 are basically seeing only a very limited 2464 02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:50,739 amount of it all the ground now they 2465 02:04:02,280 --> 02:03:52,690 wouldn't let you in discern they would 2466 02:04:06,660 --> 02:04:02,290 see you coming from miles away you would 2467 02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:06,670 be arrested again I'll pay your bail 2468 02:04:11,150 --> 02:04:08,320 though don't worry about a contact me 2469 02:04:14,970 --> 02:04:11,160 I'll I'll I'll get your bail taken care 2470 02:04:18,959 --> 02:04:14,980 to go there see what kind of reactions 2471 02:04:21,900 --> 02:04:18,969 they have in being challenged also you 2472 02:04:23,340 --> 02:04:21,910 know closely but I I think that's which 2473 02:04:26,790 --> 02:04:23,350 say it's one of those places where you 2474 02:04:28,740 --> 02:04:26,800 don't want to really mess around because 2475 02:04:32,459 --> 02:04:28,750 they're very straight you know then they 2476 02:04:34,290 --> 02:04:32,469 don't have real sense of you know they 2477 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:34,300 don't know they don't know I could crack 2478 02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:36,010 all the jokes in the world nobody's 2479 02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:40,330 gonna laugh at me in Switzerland but leo 2480 02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:42,370 let me ask you something that I think is 2481 02:04:47,970 --> 02:04:45,610 one of the most important questions that 2482 02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:47,980 we have when it comes to CERN this 2483 02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:50,530 planet right now is as certainly over 2484 02:04:57,870 --> 02:04:54,250 the last three years is has gone nuts 2485 02:04:58,780 --> 02:04:57,880 right everybody's fighting every country 2486 02:05:02,050 --> 02:04:58,790 that it 2487 02:05:05,260 --> 02:05:02,060 matter we have never seen this kind of 2488 02:05:08,410 --> 02:05:05,270 chaos maybe in the history of everything 2489 02:05:12,100 --> 02:05:08,420 we are certainly at a point where all of 2490 02:05:16,290 --> 02:05:12,110 us can recognize the the anger that's on 2491 02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:16,300 this planet is it connected to CERN and 2492 02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:19,250 black holes opening up portals and 2493 02:05:26,650 --> 02:05:22,370 trying to achieve the speed of light is 2494 02:05:29,050 --> 02:05:26,660 is is there a connection here well as 2495 02:05:31,330 --> 02:05:29,060 you know in my book actually when I'm 2496 02:05:33,730 --> 02:05:31,340 talking about it announced very directly 2497 02:05:35,740 --> 02:05:33,740 the the military industrial complex for 2498 02:05:37,780 --> 02:05:35,750 still being the biggest problem and 2499 02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:37,790 today is America regardless of one 2500 02:05:44,620 --> 02:05:40,610 political views so I mean that is 2501 02:05:48,250 --> 02:05:44,630 because they have also discuss Eva T 2502 02:05:51,730 --> 02:05:48,260 uncertain technology these days but also 2503 02:05:54,700 --> 02:05:51,740 because they are profiting from war 2504 02:05:57,310 --> 02:05:54,710 they're profiting from death and and 2505 02:06:02,170 --> 02:05:57,320 they're not really constructing still a 2506 02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:02,180 sustainable future that that but we are 2507 02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:02,930 trying to change 2508 02:06:08,860 --> 02:06:05,930 I mean mankind is of course in front a 2509 02:06:13,060 --> 02:06:08,870 very chaotic moment but there is also 2510 02:06:16,590 --> 02:06:13,070 people that are standing up against this 2511 02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:16,600 this this new world order against this 2512 02:06:24,070 --> 02:06:21,250 wanting to make everything and everybody 2513 02:06:26,170 --> 02:06:24,080 prisoners of this planet by 2514 02:06:30,130 --> 02:06:26,180 microchipping them one day that would be 2515 02:06:32,470 --> 02:06:30,140 the moment in which the dark forces from 2516 02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:32,480 the alien world would be finally able to 2517 02:06:39,670 --> 02:06:35,810 really be in complete control of us 2518 02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:39,680 while now we still have that famous 2519 02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:41,450 possibility I was given to us at the 2520 02:06:45,460 --> 02:06:43,490 beginning of times when we have a 2521 02:06:48,730 --> 02:06:45,470 possibility between good and evil and we 2522 02:06:53,590 --> 02:06:48,740 have a choice we actually have the 2523 02:06:58,030 --> 02:06:53,600 possibility of making a spirit or so 2524 02:07:01,000 --> 02:06:58,040 better but once the microchip pass and 2525 02:07:04,020 --> 02:07:01,010 that is just around the corner at that 2526 02:07:07,420 --> 02:07:04,030 point they will have basically 2527 02:07:10,210 --> 02:07:07,430 terminated there one of the most 2528 02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:10,220 important phases and other point again 2529 02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:12,520 to say guys 2530 02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:16,850 you are our prisoners so that's the 2531 02:07:22,870 --> 02:07:19,250 thing they have convinced us and that's 2532 02:07:26,380 --> 02:07:22,880 why California's so important because of 2533 02:07:29,130 --> 02:07:26,390 course Silicon Valley is it is coming 2534 02:07:33,070 --> 02:07:29,140 from that kind of experience that is 2535 02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:33,080 manipulated and is filtered in places 2536 02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:36,170 like Palo Alto or other places that 2537 02:07:42,940 --> 02:07:40,490 where we have a manipulation that goes 2538 02:07:48,430 --> 02:07:42,950 well beyond the realm of terrestrial 2539 02:07:51,900 --> 02:07:48,440 control so when artificial intelligence 2540 02:07:58,690 --> 02:07:51,910 will be finally activated in full force 2541 02:08:01,540 --> 02:07:58,700 that is because the demonic forces and 2542 02:08:03,460 --> 02:08:01,550 the dark side of those alien forces that 2543 02:08:06,670 --> 02:08:03,470 we have been feeling for a long time are 2544 02:08:08,470 --> 02:08:06,680 now in complete control I mean that's 2545 02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:08,480 gotta be pretty scary to see what's 2546 02:08:12,730 --> 02:08:10,250 gonna happen next because they are 2547 02:08:14,290 --> 02:08:12,740 already getting there with smartphones 2548 02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:14,300 and with all the technology that we have 2549 02:08:22,870 --> 02:08:18,970 up until now but then they can really 2550 02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:22,880 you know free hell and let hell break 2551 02:08:27,250 --> 02:08:25,370 loose once once we are finally 2552 02:08:28,570 --> 02:08:27,260 microchipped and then we have received 2553 02:08:32,050 --> 02:08:28,580 the mark of the beast so this was 2554 02:08:34,540 --> 02:08:32,060 actually said that's why I during the 2555 02:08:36,250 --> 02:08:34,550 course of my book III say even to 2556 02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:36,260 Christians so don't worry about what I'm 2557 02:08:39,190 --> 02:08:37,610 saying here it might not fit your 2558 02:08:41,470 --> 02:08:39,200 Christian paddling because in the end 2559 02:08:44,140 --> 02:08:41,480 you're gonna see this actually here fits 2560 02:08:46,780 --> 02:08:44,150 with Christian beliefs all along like it 2561 02:08:49,630 --> 02:08:46,790 fits with Muslim be of Jewish beliefs 2562 02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:49,640 all kinds of other beliefs that are 2563 02:08:55,060 --> 02:08:52,010 saying the same thing especially in the 2564 02:08:57,460 --> 02:08:55,070 judeo-christian world that we are at a 2565 02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:57,470 turning point of our reality now 2566 02:09:05,470 --> 02:09:00,800 regarding the aliens 2020 is a 2567 02:09:09,580 --> 02:09:05,480 reoccurring kind of the air that seems 2568 02:09:11,980 --> 02:09:09,590 to to appear every now and then it seems 2569 02:09:13,720 --> 02:09:11,990 to be of some interest what I can say 2570 02:09:16,150 --> 02:09:13,730 also is that there is very much a lot of 2571 02:09:21,220 --> 02:09:16,160 interest towards the aliens also from 2572 02:09:23,170 --> 02:09:21,230 the Vatican and the Vatican is is of 2573 02:09:26,229 --> 02:09:23,180 course interested in the whole finger 2574 02:09:30,820 --> 02:09:26,239 because they don't want to be left 2575 02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:30,830 they won't always engage with with with 2576 02:09:34,979 --> 02:09:33,170 their power and control everything but 2577 02:09:37,979 --> 02:09:34,989 they know that the moment in which 2578 02:09:42,580 --> 02:09:37,989 things will be revealed to the world 2579 02:09:45,010 --> 02:09:42,590 well I mean of course most of the of the 2580 02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:45,020 current religious beliefs will be 2581 02:09:49,209 --> 02:09:47,570 dismounted there will be will have to be 2582 02:09:53,860 --> 02:09:49,219 addressed in a different way we 2583 02:09:55,990 --> 02:09:53,870 discussed and and this is also the big 2584 02:09:57,880 --> 02:09:56,000 fear and that's why they don't reveal 2585 02:10:00,850 --> 02:09:57,890 the existence of aliens they don't 2586 02:10:05,709 --> 02:10:00,860 reveal the existence of UFOs because 2587 02:10:10,479 --> 02:10:05,719 there is this whole fear of not being 2588 02:10:13,660 --> 02:10:10,489 able to control reality anymore but we 2589 02:10:16,300 --> 02:10:13,670 are going towards towards a virtual 2590 02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:16,310 reality we are going towards being 2591 02:10:22,690 --> 02:10:19,250 completely linked to the AI and so at 2592 02:10:26,050 --> 02:10:22,700 that point we will be revealed alien 2593 02:10:28,930 --> 02:10:26,060 truth but it will be too late are the 2594 02:10:34,540 --> 02:10:28,940 are the engineers and the scientists at 2595 02:10:37,780 --> 02:10:34,550 CERN do they are they aware of the 2596 02:10:42,990 --> 02:10:37,790 portal is is this a goal are they aware 2597 02:10:47,590 --> 02:10:43,000 of the possibility of ET contact or 2598 02:10:50,830 --> 02:10:47,600 interdimensional or or an entity contact 2599 02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:50,840 and portal a doorway is is this part of 2600 02:10:58,500 --> 02:10:55,250 their goal absolutely I mean Chen has an 2601 02:11:02,020 --> 02:10:58,510 awkward side I think that even this 2602 02:11:04,030 --> 02:11:02,030 ritual of 2016 that was the impoverish a 2603 02:11:05,950 --> 02:11:04,040 might have been made even on purpose so 2604 02:11:08,770 --> 02:11:05,960 they can make a mockery of the Akkad and 2605 02:11:11,350 --> 02:11:08,780 just dismiss it all together but when I 2606 02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:11,360 went to study that ritual which I'm sure 2607 02:11:18,070 --> 02:11:15,110 you have seen there is some elements of 2608 02:11:20,260 --> 02:11:18,080 it that are peculiar of equities that 2609 02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:20,270 have been doing that for a long time 2610 02:11:26,170 --> 02:11:23,570 it's not just people running around in a 2611 02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:26,180 stupid way of doing what they were doing 2612 02:11:36,370 --> 02:11:30,370 was very much ritualistic and correct 2613 02:11:38,260 --> 02:11:36,380 and the Buddhist times so it says it's a 2614 02:11:39,500 --> 02:11:38,270 bit strange here than to just dismiss it 2615 02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:39,510 as 2616 02:11:43,850 --> 02:11:41,130 scientists having fun here there is 2617 02:11:46,939 --> 02:11:43,860 scientists to know that there is a link 2618 02:11:49,189 --> 02:11:46,949 but that link was severe when alchemy 2619 02:11:51,770 --> 02:11:49,199 was then transformed in this proto 2620 02:11:53,479 --> 02:11:51,780 chemistry and that everything together 2621 02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:53,489 with it and physics and all the rest 2622 02:12:02,149 --> 02:11:56,880 were just pushed in the realm of 2623 02:12:04,580 --> 02:12:02,159 materialism and so then this link with 2624 02:12:06,740 --> 02:12:04,590 spirituality was severe and they was 2625 02:12:11,290 --> 02:12:06,750 kept on within the RAM instead of secret 2626 02:12:15,109 --> 02:12:11,300 societies why is that I mean why do 2627 02:12:17,299 --> 02:12:15,119 important scientists that every day go 2628 02:12:19,129 --> 02:12:17,309 around the world talking about the 2629 02:12:22,279 --> 02:12:19,139 non-existence of aliens the 2630 02:12:25,310 --> 02:12:22,289 materialistic reality promoting all 2631 02:12:27,169 --> 02:12:25,320 kinds of disinformation then go at night 2632 02:12:30,859 --> 02:12:27,179 in their lodges and believe in an 2633 02:12:32,750 --> 02:12:30,869 esoteric reality I mean this it's 2634 02:12:36,709 --> 02:12:32,760 obvious that they are playing double 2635 02:12:41,810 --> 02:12:36,719 standards the elevating can lodge the 2636 02:12:44,689 --> 02:12:41,820 Freemasons in a Switzerland are known to 2637 02:12:48,229 --> 02:12:44,699 be depositories of the seekers of the 2638 02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:48,239 Knights Templars in Europe they have 2639 02:12:52,910 --> 02:12:50,730 picked up the signals because in France 2640 02:12:56,299 --> 02:12:52,920 nabis and Sun were the walls the 2641 02:12:59,240 --> 02:12:56,309 archives ceased after the French 2642 02:13:01,399 --> 02:12:59,250 Revolution they feared that the 2643 02:13:04,540 --> 02:13:01,409 revolution will destroy these archives 2644 02:13:06,770 --> 02:13:04,550 because linked to Christianity and to 2645 02:13:08,660 --> 02:13:06,780 Catholicism even if the words Knights 2646 02:13:12,709 --> 02:13:08,670 Templars of course and even if the 2647 02:13:16,490 --> 02:13:12,719 French Revolution was partly of party 2648 02:13:18,529 --> 02:13:16,500 built by some Nell Templar faction but 2649 02:13:22,149 --> 02:13:18,539 the problem was that after the actual 2650 02:13:25,339 --> 02:13:22,159 revolution took place this specific 2651 02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:25,349 group of the civil a beneficial asset 2652 02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:27,690 ascent which means the beneficiary 2653 02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:30,480 Knights of the holy city transferred all 2654 02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:36,690 the archives including stuff which is 2655 02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:41,690 connected to alien reality in the 2656 02:13:47,629 --> 02:13:45,119 archives in Switzerland here they became 2657 02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:47,639 part of the rectified Scottish Rite 2658 02:13:53,300 --> 02:13:50,250 which is the driving for service which 2659 02:13:57,350 --> 02:13:53,310 of Swiss film information 2660 02:13:59,360 --> 02:13:57,360 and it's connected them to Scandinavian 2661 02:14:01,990 --> 02:13:59,370 Freemasonry the Swedish right so I mean 2662 02:14:04,220 --> 02:14:02,000 there is a link here of a network of 2663 02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:04,230 freemason linked to the Knights Templars 2664 02:14:08,750 --> 02:14:06,570 that is not the same Freemason you see 2665 02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:08,760 the Freemasons for window Masons that 2666 02:14:12,860 --> 02:14:10,800 you see in England the United Lodge of 2667 02:14:15,770 --> 02:14:12,870 England and the corporate Freemasonry 2668 02:14:18,290 --> 02:14:15,780 thing that they want to believe that 2669 02:14:19,970 --> 02:14:18,300 it's all based around the corporation 2670 02:14:22,370 --> 02:14:19,980 about the builders of the Cathedral 2671 02:14:23,990 --> 02:14:22,380 yes okay I think it is could be built by 2672 02:14:25,370 --> 02:14:24,000 the old days if you didn't have an army 2673 02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:25,380 protecting them it would be the strategy 2674 02:14:33,830 --> 02:14:30,480 after solitons our previously that it 2675 02:14:36,350 --> 02:14:33,840 has to be only from a certain vision of 2676 02:14:38,570 --> 02:14:36,360 corporate of the corporations is wrong 2677 02:14:41,570 --> 02:14:38,580 there is also a link to the Knights 2678 02:14:44,660 --> 02:14:41,580 Templars and the temples were eliminated 2679 02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:44,670 by the the Catholic Church only 2680 02:14:48,740 --> 02:14:46,650 partially because the traditions were 2681 02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:48,750 still transmitted in the families that 2682 02:14:54,140 --> 02:14:51,570 belong to these Knights Templars and and 2683 02:14:55,940 --> 02:14:54,150 so in Switzerland they have their 2684 02:14:58,100 --> 02:14:55,950 headquarters is not a coincidence not 2685 02:15:02,600 --> 02:14:58,110 you think it's a coincidence no of 2686 02:15:04,340 --> 02:15:02,610 course not used to be of the European 2687 02:15:07,700 --> 02:15:04,350 Illuminati and there is actually a 2688 02:15:10,490 --> 02:15:07,710 museum in Stein Switzerland is that 2689 02:15:13,690 --> 02:15:10,500 incident no it's not and and Leo we all 2690 02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:13,700 know if you everything is safe in 2691 02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:15,930 Switzerland that's where you put it they 2692 02:15:19,940 --> 02:15:17,970 you know the vaults the country 2693 02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:19,950 everything is secure you want something 2694 02:15:25,010 --> 02:15:22,970 to stay secret you want something to be 2695 02:15:27,500 --> 02:15:25,020 undiscoverable you want something to be 2696 02:15:32,390 --> 02:15:27,510 hidden you take it to Switzerland and 2697 02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:32,400 and that's that's the bad because you 2698 02:15:40,370 --> 02:15:33,810 have to understand in ancient Roman 2699 02:15:45,290 --> 02:15:40,380 times they were easily it's not a joke 2700 02:15:52,460 --> 02:15:45,300 no just sent them back gave them that's 2701 02:15:55,550 --> 02:15:52,470 right everybody has hey leo 2702 02:15:57,020 --> 02:15:55,560 I want to thank you amazing conversation 2703 02:16:00,200 --> 02:15:57,030 we've got to get you back on the show 2704 02:16:02,570 --> 02:16:00,210 there's way too much 2705 02:16:06,700 --> 02:16:02,580 more to talk about that's in this book 2706 02:16:09,170 --> 02:16:06,710 the book is amazing and I'm glad that 2707 02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:09,180 you took some time off to get this 2708 02:16:14,210 --> 02:16:10,890 important work done I think it's going 2709 02:16:21,230 --> 02:16:14,220 to become required reading in all 2710 02:16:22,790 --> 02:16:21,240 conspiracy because I I mean I had the 2711 02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:22,800 impression that a lot of these topics 2712 02:16:28,670 --> 02:16:24,960 didn't want to be discussed in your 2713 02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:28,680 environment that's and that's the way it 2714 02:16:34,270 --> 02:16:30,890 is right but we're here to change things 2715 02:16:36,980 --> 02:16:34,280 thank you so much Leo be safe out there 2716 02:16:39,980 --> 02:16:36,990 okay you'd love to take chances and 2717 02:16:42,470 --> 02:16:39,990 please be safe and we'll get you back on 2718 02:16:44,270 --> 02:16:42,480 the show very soon and we'll pick up 2719 02:16:50,180 --> 02:16:44,280 this conversation again thank you so 2720 02:16:51,560 --> 02:16:50,190 much yeah you are the best everybody was 2721 02:16:54,710 --> 02:16:51,570 saying how long it was going to take me 2722 02:16:56,090 --> 02:16:54,720 to say that Leo's egami the very best 2723 02:16:59,060 --> 02:16:56,100 thank you so much Leo 2724 02:17:01,580 --> 02:16:59,070 and thank you to everybody that 2725 02:17:04,220 --> 02:17:01,590 participated in Twitter tonight it was 2726 02:17:07,220 --> 02:17:04,230 completely on fire you can go to Leo's 2727 02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:07,230 website it's Leo's egami comm the links 2728 02:17:13,660 --> 02:17:09,570 are at Jimmy Turks radio.com and of 2729 02:17:16,190 --> 02:17:13,670 course CCC publishing and brad olson 2730 02:17:17,930 --> 02:17:16,200 betablox executive producers ritika 2731 02:17:19,910 --> 02:17:17,940 Murray on shows produced by Hill J 2732 02:17:22,480 --> 02:17:19,920 Palmer nay Dennis and Bob announces our 2733 02:17:25,370 --> 02:17:22,490 Steve hearted Jean Patou Mr D Cove our 2734 02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:25,380 webmaster is Drew the geek music doug 2735 02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:28,170 aldrich intro space boys space boy music 2736 02:17:34,700 --> 02:17:30,690 calm fade to black is produced by 2737 02:17:39,560 --> 02:17:37,520 the planet sprach cast own a copyright a 2738 02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:39,570 2018 by fade to black in the game 2739 02:17:43,080 --> 02:17:41,810 changer Network it cannot be rebroadcast 2740 02:17:44,310 --> 02:17:43,090 downloaded 2741 02:17:46,589 --> 02:17:44,320 either used anywhere in the known 2742 02:17:48,299 --> 02:17:46,599 universe without written permission from 2743 02:17:48,870 --> 02:17:48,309 fade to black or the game-changer 2744 02:17:50,940 --> 02:17:48,880 Network 2745 02:17:54,870 --> 02:17:50,950 I'm your host Jimmy church tomorrow 2746 02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:54,880 night right here Michael Lee Hill AR 2747 02:17:59,900 --> 02:17:58,000 Borden and the secret NSA group will be 2748 02:18:02,879 --> 02:17:59,910 revealed tomorrow night 2749 02:18:06,389 --> 02:18:02,889 exclusively on fade to black follow me 2750 02:18:07,169 --> 02:18:06,399 on twitter @ JT radio thank you Leo's 2751 02:18:10,919 --> 02:18:07,179 egami 2752 02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:10,929 the book invisible masters is out now go 2753 02:18:16,580 --> 02:18:13,689 and get yours I'm you know Jimmy Church 2754 02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:16,590 till tomorrow night everybody be safe